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this is just such a bizarre and wrongheaded statement

^^^

I hate cars. I don't drive to work. I take the bus - which uses city streets. Streets have long existed as the central organizing principle of urban space since well before cars were invented. people living/working in cities should absolutely feel entitled to using streets to get from one place to another, regardless of what vehicles are being used. I am a hardcore fan of public space, they are there for everybody to use, and they are funded by everybody for a reason.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

poor working people get screwed no matter what. protesting in visible public places is too important a tactic to give up because it "causes" traffic. minimizing problems for the powerless along the way is important, but reaching out with real goals/vision-for-the-future-type-stuff for us and the less-fortunate-than-we-are is more important than worrying about inconveniencing and omigod alienating some people. they were either asking to be alienated in the first place or you aren't doing a good enough job reaching out in other ways.

xp not talking about "streets as public thoroughfare," talking about "i was 15 minutes late and my boss was an asshole about it."

nuhnuhnuh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

how dare OWS make me late to the job i hate so i can live paycheck to paycheck

nuhnuhnuh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

they were either asking to be alienated in the first place

might wanna think about how successful this kind of rhetoric is in attempting to build a broad-based movement

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

and I'm not arguing against protesting in public spaces - that is also what they are for! - I was irritated by iatee saying that blocking traffic IN AND OF ITSELF is a good thing. it's not.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's pretty obvious that Occupy is past the point where overly combative/rhetoric tactics are going to win them any support

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

ugh i'm getting into an armchair argument i have no business being in and afaict HOOS does an awesome job of it day in and day out. what can i say, i'm in a people-suck Dr-Morbius type of mood, or a people suck Dr Morbius type of mood, whatever.

xpost oh yeah i don't think blocking traffic is inherently good at all.

nuhnuhnuh, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

that's what ppl were objecting to/mocking, it kind of had nothing to do with OWS

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

I hate cars. I don't drive to work. I take the bus - which uses city streets. Streets have long existed as the central organizing principle of urban space since well before cars were invented. people living/working in cities should absolutely feel entitled to using streets to get from one place to another, regardless of what vehicles are being used. I am a hardcore fan of public space, they are there for everybody to use, and they are funded by everybody for a reason.

I'm 'not gonna get into this' but the distribution of public space in a place like DC in the past 100 years has shifted radically towards 'cars and parking merit 80% of a street's width. it is, very much, a zero-sum game and one that isn't unrelated to OWS stuff as much of the country simply has no appropriate space to 'occupy' because most places don't have shared streets or very visible/centralized public spaces. that's one reason why it's much more feasible to protest in a european city and ps, they block traffic there too it just doesn't put the whole country into crisis mode.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

OWS didn't fuck up downtown traffic nearly as badly as the White House xmas tree lighting ceremony did last week. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???

I have died., Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

at least Obama's visits to NYC to raise millions from the 1% drive ppl out of midtown

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

oh man i died has died

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:38 (twelve years ago) link

can somone please put anonymous' corny ass news reports with guy fawkes masks to bed? because really, turning reality into some kind of cartoony sci-fi max headroom shit makes the message CHEEZ AS FUCK.

akm, Thursday, 8 December 2011 09:15 (twelve years ago) link

when we're getting live reports from the ground from "unknownvector" and "circleApunk" i'd say reality is already pretty sci-fi

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Occupy Snowcrash

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

thinking more

http://craphound.com/littlebrother/littlebrotheruk.jpg

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

boston set to get evicted (again) tonight

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, watching those Anonymous video communiques makes me feel like I'm on a Johnny Mnemonic ride at a theme park, which isn't an entirely unpleasant sensation, to be honest. But probably not super helpful in terms of getting across the seriousness of what's in that defense bill.

la mujer de spirea equis, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

ha cory doctorow just tweeted "this is like a lost chapter from 'little brother,' except it actually happened: http://myoccupylaarrest.blogspot.com/2011/12/my-occupy-la-arrest-by-patrick-meighan.html "

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

^^ just forwarded that link to my siblings to read. Worth the time.

Aimless, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

JoshHarkinson ·More
Law and Order Special Victims Unit has set up a replica of the occupation of Zuccotti Park at nearby Foley Square for a new episode.

#lol

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

@DiceyTroop ·More
Yup! Law and Order built us a new home, so we're moving in! See you all at Foley Square! Stay cool; treat it like it's ours. #Mockupy #d9

hahahahahah paging baudrillard

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

"They've delivered us this perfectly wrapped Xmas present with a bow on top.They rebuilt our camp. How could we not go and take it?"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link

meanwhile in boston

http://distilleryimage3.instagram.com/58a17222222111e19896123138142014_7.jpg

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.livestream.com/occupyboston

here we go

feels like a lifetime ago that i did this the first time

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

livestream: easily over a thousand people

http://yfrog.com/nxptfezj

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

@c_________ now
Going out the way I came in- defending my media tent. #OccupyBoston

my fuckin girl

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

there's a marching band playing "which side are you on"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

@diymediadotnet ·More
So two guys livestreaming from their phones run into each other at #occupyboston. "We just exploded the Internet," says one in greeting.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:10 (twelve years ago) link

@nicoles ·More
Chants of "NYPD does not respect law and order!" as cops rush in. #mockupy
Retweeted by #OCCUPYWALLSTREET

lmao <3333333333333333333333

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

boston:

"the police have said that they will not clear the camp tonight"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:13 (twelve years ago) link

fuck yes

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 9 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

in all seriousness though i wonder if it's gonna be a moot point when the students leave town in a week anyway

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 9 December 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

no yeah i mean

i go out of town next thurs to the following tues and i'm terrified we're gonna get hit while i'm gone

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:26 (twelve years ago) link

and i have a sense bpd are just waiting til 4am or whatevet

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:29 (twelve years ago) link

@dailyrev ·More
@OccupyWallStNYC Can you evict a fake idea? Can you fake-evict an idea? Can the occupiers at the perimeter move to arrest the NYPD inside?

seriously this is making my entire life

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:36 (twelve years ago) link

@jopauca 26s
Livestreamer: "Are these barricades yours or the sets?" NYPD: "I don't even know. They don't look like ours. I don't know."

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:37 (twelve years ago) link

i am loling harder than i ever have in my entire life

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:37 (twelve years ago) link

robin is going home in boston--she would not go home if she didn't think boston was safe

boston is safe

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_1207why_meninos_wary_of_ousting_occupiers/

this is actually kind of insightful from the boston herald (!):

“(The mayor) expects the judge to come down his way on this,” the source explained. “And when she does, he’ll do nothing. At least not right away.

“He obviously expects the weather to get brutal soon. And that will make it harder and harder for them to stay, especially with the ban on any winter tents.”

So, exasperated though he may be, Menino will wait on a judge and then wait for winter to start feeling like winter.

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 9 December 2011 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

also having lived in boston for as long as i did, i wouldn't put it past menino/the bpd to make a big spectacle of themselves even if the simpler thing to do WOULD just be to wait for the students to clear out for the holidays and take a bunch of occupiers with them (as the article alludes to, the bpd have also had some pretty prominent, erm, crowd control issues over the past decade or so)

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 9 December 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

@JeffSharlet ·More
So it was all a ruse: @occupyboston head fake, NYC #mockupy, and meanwhile @occupyphoenix really is being raided. livestream.com/OccupyPhoenix

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 07:14 (twelve years ago) link

whoa boston getting raid now maybe

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

Remember to get you some sleep, hoos.

Aimless, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

boston evicted this morning, 46 arrested

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

tonight they arrested boston people FOR HAVING A GA IN THE PARK

HOOS aka driver of steen, Sunday, 11 December 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

so much for the 1st Amendment, RIP.

Our city council is voting tomorrow on whether to extend the camp's permissions.

sleeve sandbox, Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

tonight they arrested boston people FOR HAVING A GA IN THE PARK

deets?

river wolf, Sunday, 11 December 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Staten Island vs Cheney tomorrow night:

http://occupystatenisland.org/content/protest-dick-cheney

Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 December 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link


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