dying @ lil b being a conscious rapperor whatever btw, boots riley weeps
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
honestly, I wouldn't carry this argument on if I didn't think that Al would probably like the album a bit more than he realizes based off of the tracks he's sampled -- I can see why he would have that kind of snap judgement, but the record is really diverse & interesting & he's definitely a talented performer, with a lot more depth stylistically than the other artists mentioned here
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah kendrick actually makes an effort to flip new styles in his actual rapping as opposed to his clothes or his twitter brand
― gucc_ebooks (tpp), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
the adhd video is really really cool too
― gucc_ebooks (tpp), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
that said he should probably check 'setbacks' first
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
Here's The Wire's rap list from the year end thread
Chris Brown featuring Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes Look At Me Now (Jive) Danny Brown XXX (Fools Gold) Jay-Z & Kanye West Niggas In Paris (Def Jam) Kendrick Lamar Section 80 (TDE) Lil B Bitch Mob: Respect Da Bitch Vol 1 (No label) Meek Mill House Party (Maybach Music Group) Mr Muthafuckin’ Exquire Huzzah (YouTube clip) Tyler, The Creator Yonkers (OFWGKTA/XL) Don Trip & Starlito Step Brothers (No label) Waka Flocka Flame Duflocka Rant (No label)
― Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
haha i find it hard to believe ppl are actually repping for 'respect da bitch'. do i need to listen to it again?
'house party' is fucking amazing
who is writing the wire's hip-hop column now? still noz?
― gucc_ebooks (tpp), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, didn't know he was a fan of "Niggas in Paris" tho
― Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
Kendrick has a much less corny flow and vocal tone, he has more control, his voice doesn't dip up in frequency like ka'naan's does. it's nowhere near as corny. i mean, they might have voices at roughly the same frequency but that's true of tons of other rappers as well.
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:38 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
i mean, lamar just sounds cooler and less earnestly eager-to-please than kanaan, and i mean that in the sense of his vocals, never mind his lyrics. Lyrically, Kendrick is also a lot more oblique & less on-the-nose obvious about what his 'point' is, it's a lot more about conveying a feeling than trying to hammer home a message
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:41 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
90% of what you just said has nothing to do w/ vocal timbre, i'm not 'ascribing stupidity' to you if you want to keep changing the subject and ignoring what i'm actually saying
― sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
even i'm a fan of "niggas in paris" even though kanye needs to be REMOVED from it badly
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kanye-west-entourage-fashion-week-paris.jpg
never forget goin gorillas
― sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
hey smartass how is accusing me of differentiating rappers based on headgear not accusing me of superficial stupidity?
and yes i specifically addressed vocal tone in what i just said, about how they use their voices?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
(youtube clip)
― good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
i just feel like you're compartmentalizing rappers into such distinct categories that you can't even begin to comprehend someone hearing a very elemental sonic similarity based on something more external and superficial -- it's like "no no they have NOTHING in common, this guy wears doo rags and this guy wears kufis!!!!"
like, what post of mine is this even referring to? 'such distinct categories'??
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
before it was "distortions," now it's "accusations," you're really just incapable of shooting the shit about music without sounding like a politician on the defensive dude
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
if you stop trying to argue with strawmen it would be a lot easier to not be defensive about it
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
it was a humorous exaggeration, not an actual serious allegation that you judge rappers by their mystical hats as you do with jazz musicians
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
you're exaggerating a position i dont even hold
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
anyway all i meant by the k'naan thing was that kendrick lamar seems like the kind of rapper i might enjoy if his voice had the slightest bit of gravitas, i'm sorry if that's just a bizarre thing to say but i'm just giving a first impression and not digging my heels in or anything
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
thats fine, i don't even love the kendrick record like that, it just seemed like an overly harsh judgement considering
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
― Number None, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 5:26 PM (34 minutes ago)
-______-
is this going to do well in the ilm poll?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
nothing is good about that song
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
every time deej says "cray" i shudder
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
*ducks in*
BAH SO HAHD
*ducks out*
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
jay's verse on that is awesome -- really shoulda been a solo record
i missed duflocka rant, is it actually that good?
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
if "single ladies" is the aural equivalent of trya.gif, "niggas in paris" is the aural equivalent ofhttp://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/rap_roller.jpg
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
"diva" is the one that's the aural tyra.gif!
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
you do need the t.i. verse on "niggas in paris"
right right
point stands
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 7, 2011 3:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
lil b spits very real shit at times
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, kick kanye off, make it a t.i./jay song and that's top 10 singles of the year
― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 7, 2011 6:07 PM (2 minutes ago)
even if you somehow like that goofy ass bad rapping song, someone man up and tell me this post isn't objectively otm
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
oh also put a good beat and chorus on it (xpost)
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
my man
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
that's a great beat
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
^NAH SO HARD
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 6:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
yeah but it's mostly kinda just weird soft-headed shit, he doesn't have a political agenda IMO
― upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
not arguing about dope party music with crotchety mr. shipley and i don't even listen to music kev kells
MOVING ON -- i don't really get the big deal about "house party". it's def a hot song but i don't see it as, like, some classic track. prob not even in my top 5 off 'dreamchasers'. or maybe my #5.
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
― upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 5:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
and for the better imo
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
has lil b repped for ron paul yet
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
or would even endorsing one candidate over another not be 'positive' enough for him
"house party" is just one of those 'thank god they put this on the radio' kind of songs for me, i don't know if i would've gravitated toward it if i'd heard it on the mixtape first
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
man i could really listen to the first paris record right now, let's burn this shithole to the ground
― upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
i never understood why ppl always thought politics was like bad or boring, revolutionary shit sounds fucking awesome its cool to fantasize about fucking up the MAN
― upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
i think jay & kanye are both wack right now but 'nbombs in paris' is undeniable
also, 'house party' is totally awesome so j0rdan and al both get to be RONG
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
cmon dude 'house party's opening verse is about fucking in the bathroom during a house party & running the water so ppl dont hear it, that shit is like digital underground shit, plus a banging beat
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
shit shit
i agree with j0rdan, it's okay but not one of the standouts on dreamchasers (middle of da summer, work, ima boss, dreamchasers, love done live here)
― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
'work' and 'love don't live here' aren't touching 'house party' or 'tony story' which you skipped completely
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
the beat of niggas in paris is fuckin great.
& du flocka rent is the best BSM stuff this year
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link