2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

the idea that the nation as a whole is not completely soured on the Bush family is hilarious

what about mark sanford? he only cheated on one wife

but Romney cheated on a movement!

I dunno, Shakey. I think Neil might have fit in nicely with some of the recent Pres candidates.

the nation as a whole is soured on the Bush family

oh i know

Maybe I'm wrong, but are they not past the point of no return as far as getting in now goes?

Remember: the nation as a whole soured on the GOP in 2009, heralding a new rebirth of liberalism.

that Snagglepuss image is the first decent thing on these GOPobsessive hen party threads.

Attacking Rev Wright (that was his name?) was not PERSONAL, cuz as Bill Maher pointed out Obama is too smart to REALLY be a Christian. /mattarmstrong

pfffff, u.s. is a hard-right nation in all but the broadest sense, and nothing in 2009 changed that. it's basically GOP-controlled except when there's a severe recession (bush I or II) or some huge nat'l disgrace (watergate)

The U.S. isn't left, right, or anything nation other than what socioeconomic forces dictate at that moment.

GOP has controlled the presidency for 20 of the last 30 years, with the only breaks being, as i say, post watergate and during recessions.

or, put it a different way: when times are good, we say "hands off, gov't." when times are bad, we say, "help us!, gov't."

It's cyclical -- Democrats controlled every branch of government from 1932 through the eighties.

I won't take credit for this Burke quote: "Every political question I have ever known has had so much of the pro and con in it that nothing but the success could decide which proposition was to have been adopted."

well, that's fair, but at 30 years now, i think we can say this has been a long rightward drift, with some bursts of progressivism along the way.

Sully's all hard at the though of his wee Eddie Burke's apposite aphorism

but at 30 years now

I think it's fair to say that the WASPs have moved farther to the right as their predominance has waned but they're losing more and more battles and as they get older, they're more and more dogmatic though less in a principled way than a mostly nostalgic emotional one.

As to economics, we conceivably know more than we did 30 years ago but then so do the masters of the universe wrt to evading controls/exerting political influence

Our system is intrinsically conservative; it's designed to occlude all but the faintest of seismic shifts. That's how the Framers intended it.

"Conservative" in this sense has nothing to do with left- or right-wing.

^^^ OTM

that's also true, but doesn't detract from my point.

You know, for all the knob-slobbering this country engages in wrt the founding fathers and the way they rigged our republic up to not fall prey to the demagoguery and dictatorships of past republics, the conservative nature of our government (in Milord Sotosyn's sense) may have prevented the wild slides and coups of many other modern republics (Africa and the rest of the Americas come to mind) but perhaps the coup has just been a long, slow one. From a part Libertarian, part Liberal perspective, Eisenhower's military-industrial complex alongside some other important industries like high finance have essentially taken over. Is that different than the industrial barons and the slaveholding plantation owners of the 19th century? I'm not sure.

GOP has controlled the presidency for 20 of the last 30 years, with the only breaks being, as i say, post watergate and during recessions.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

Without the judicial coup in 2000 it could easily have been 16 of the last 30 for the Dems. Maybe 20.

probably 20, actually.

CNN polls today:

Iowa -- 33-20, Gingrich
New Hampshire (Romney's bulwark) -- now 35-26, Romney
South Carolina -- 43-20, Gingrich
Florida -- 48-25, Gingrich

This is no dream, etc. (I hope--may as well enjoy the moment, in any event.)

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lol

i think the real debate now is whether it would be worth having president gingrich in return for how awesome it would be to have nominee gingrich, & to this i say yes, yes it would, for real it so would

YES HE CAN

i want to hear gingrich general-election campaign slogans

"Fundamentally, Newt's the One!"

David Frum had an interesting point tonight (when asked how he'd advise Romney at this point): ask Republican voters if they want 2012 to be a referendum on the Clinton presidency. A subtle point that probably wouldn't get Mitt very far.

i want to hear gingrich general-election campaign slogans

GettINGRICH

Did Frum intend a defense of the Clinton presidency? About time -- it was the most successful Republican presidency of the last thirty years.

newt today:

"On my first day in office," he said, "I will move our embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem." Massive applause. "And I will ask John Bolton to serve as secretary of state." Even bigger applause -- standing ovation, biggest applause he's gotten.

the whole john bolton thing is so weird

Blolton

heh, larison pointed out that its technically illegal to promise appointments

gawker should demand that justice be served

I think Frum's point was simply that instead of the election being about Obama's fragile presidency, Newt would symbolically shift voter's thoughts to what is generally viewed as Clinton's successful one.

I love how Newt's not even in office yet and he's already violating rules/breaking laws

It's Signal Sending, guys.

more like Cunnilingus For Certain Interest Groups, amirite?

if newt really want to send signals, why doesn't he propose alberto gonzalez for attorney general; donald rumsfeld for sect. of defense; and dick cheney for sect. of state.

A RETURN TO SIMPLER, MORE SENSIBLE TIMES.

Because Bolton and his mustache encompass multitudes.

I want to post this EVERYWHERE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2fKmeFR_ko

that's such a classic clip

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pls make that one gif

it's not mine, it's a tumblr thing going around

and unfortunately putting it together into one gif is way more of an effort than it should be (involves breaking each gif into it's individual frames, arranging them into a single consolidated image, lining up timing, etc), and i'm drunk

fuck i thought u assembled them with like...magic

i do, but i'm only lev 7. perry gif is like lev 17

tumblr is killing the long-form gif with their stupid image size rules