Books a Man Has Given Me That Made Me Swear NEVER to Go on Another Date with Him EVER Again

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OTOH, you might get to score w/ either of the prussian blue chicks or paris hilton (same thing).

Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

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nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of paris hilton and books (an oxymoron, i know, but bear w/ me) -- i dunno what kind of reaction this one would get from a date:

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Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Transformers: The Ultimate Guide

Transformers: The Ultimate Guide is a detailed look at the fantastic world of these mechanical marvels. Follow each character's history and witness the amazing evolution of the Transformers, from physical structure and weaponry to personalities, alliances, and important battles. Detailed illustrations show exactly how each character "transforms" from warrior robot to high-powered vehicle. Special feature spreads cover all aspects of the Transformers' world and include specially commissioned maps and detailed city plans of their home planet of Cybertron, descriptions of the giant space ark in which the Transformers traveled to Earth, major wars in Transformers history, and much more.

nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

from the author of the above amazon wishlist:

Newest Remy Zero Release: Music for Middle Americans, February 6, 2002
The band Remy Zero released its third and newest album, The Golden Hum, under the Elektra label, striking a resonant political chord across America. Critic Gary Schaefer got it right when he said, "Bands like U2 and Remy Zero are bringing answers to a nation, which after Sept. 11 has come to ask a lot more questions." The captivating album indeed bears political significance. The lyrics reflect our national condition, and are a much better barometer of the State of the Union than any petty Beltway politician could provide.
Comprised of frontman Cinjun Tate, guitarists Jeffrey Cain and Shelby Tate (Cinjun's bro), bassist Cedric LeMoyne, and drummer Gregory Slay, the quintet began as kids in Birmingham, Alabama. Many say their style resembles that of Radiohead, U2, and Black Lab. Amazon.com's Adam Silverman describes their lyrics as simultaneously "dark and uplifting, cynical and hopeful," while other aficionados refer to them as "longing" and "moody."

The first single of the album, "Save Me," is also the theme song of the hit WB show Smallville, which chronicles the high school career of budding super hero Clark Kent. Twenty-four-year-old actor Tom Welling plays Kent, who in this period is the best friend of the young Lex Luthor (Michael Rosenbaum). The able presence of Welling on the screen matches well with the message carried in "Save Me." Welling's Kent proves that nice guys finish last, yet he remains constant and true.

"Save Me" relies on a recurrent, subtly shifting chorus whose complex depth and beauty arises from its relative simplicity. The content is just as rich as the form: "I feel the waves crash down inside/ and they pulled me under/ I would give you anything you want, but know/ you were all I wanted/ and all my dreams have fallen down/ crawling around and around/ ...Somebody save me/ Let your warm hands break right through/ Somebody save me/ I don't care how you do it/ Just save me/ I made this whole world shine for you/ Just stay, stay/ Oh, come on/ I'm still waiting for you."

Listening to these lyrics brings pictures of a world encased in ice, knocked far from the stable orbit of a warm sun. Yet, the possibility ever remains that "warm hands" will "break right through" to save us, and we are desperate enough not to worry about how it happens. Practicality and effectiveness are what matter. The stage is set and the conditions are right for the man on a white horse (Clark Kent?) to arrive, just in time. An excellent and provocative suggestion that such a strongman is necessary to restore the pre-1913 American Republic is in Michael A. Ledeen's Machiavelli on Modern Leadership.

I have debated whether the passivity that comes at the receiving end of a hero's deeds is healthy for paleoconservatives to embrace, politically or spiritually. After all, Americanism means self-reliance, and even Tom Welling says in a WB interview that he does not like sheep.

However, there is no danger here. Men can dream. It helps to have ideals to compare reality to, a Northern Star, even as we recognize that our reality is forever doomed to fall short of those ideals. The journey and the effort are what count. There may be no man on a white horse, but there can be a damn good grassroots effort by Middle Americans. It is probably better that way, since a mass movement can never collectively compromise with the special interests, "banksters," and multinationals (not to imply that any of our leaders have sold out, but merely the foreclosure of the very possibility).

I envision a young, brooding, upcoming populist Right generation wielding Pat Buchanan's books with one hand and balancing The Golden Hum in the other. I also expect "Save Me" will play when the nominee takes the stage at the national party convention, the next time the grassroots conservatives field a presidential candidate.

max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG

Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i really hope this is an elaborate amazon-based jole

max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

by jole i obviously meant joke

max (maxreax), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ah fuck I was just about to post that!

Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

that review builds up so perfectly to the Buchanan line.

Rick Gibralter (grady), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

However, there is no danger here. Men can dream.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i could totally see that PEW dude writing something like that ...

Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I call a moratorium on men dreaming.

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

PEW isn't that lyrical

friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean, talk about clunky prose

friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

If a woman gave me Canadian Crosswords, I would know she was my soul mate.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

This would probably be a deal breaker even if I saw it on her shelf.

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This, I just don't want to be given, at least not with any significance attached:
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Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"a guy did give me a dh lawrence book once, but this was after we had broken up. it was 'apocalypse'."

that is an insane book...first lawrence i ever read after a tipoff from my english teacher.

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

??

ZapHershElhoff?

there to preserve disorder (kenan), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never given or received a book on a date, only after the relationship has already been established. Is this common practice? Maybe it's because I tend to date the happy-go-lucky hippie types instead of goths or poets.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:39 (seventeen years ago) link

In my case it would be difficult for a man to really guess what I liked unless he had ever been in my house. It's hard to explain your love of the British navy of the Nelson era and accounts of whaling ships being stove in by whales to people you don't know very well.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember one time I visited the flat of a potential love interest, and noticed she had a few books on astrology and one about auras. It didn't completely kill the interest, but it was kinda bummer.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps my dislike for astrology-believers is heightened because a former girlfriend once told me we don't really fit together since we have the same sign.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Christ, fucking astrology.

Actually, the book that would annoy me most would be one of those "how to write lovely journals" books, or rather, a "how to journal" book, since it has become a verb now. Thanks! I can write on my own! I'm not a baby!

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The only book I have given on a date was '1066 and all that' it was well received but the dating led to nothing.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was going to give someone the master & margarita but then she went away

Subtractive Synthesis (Subtractive Synthesis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hrrmmm. Any gift of books from a mang is usually quite happily received - I'm just glad that they *read*!

OK, the lamest gift was an ex boyfriend who gave me two books - the Story of the Theremin and the Book of Moog - both of which were GRATE, but then a few weeks later, turned around and gave them (again) to a friend of his! Dude! WTF?

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link

men in "can read" shockah.

teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not a question of can or can't, it's a question of do or don't.

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just silly and sexist quelle surprise

kv_nol (kv_nol), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

It is not sexist - I could make disparranging comments about girls that don't read, but quelle surprise, I don't date girls!

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It is the same for me and girls, girls who don't read are ugly.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

This would probably be a deal breaker even if I saw it on her shelf.


OTM
WORST BOOK IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD EVER

emsk ( emsk ), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't date girls!

Again with the sexism :)

kv_nol (kv_nol), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Thing is, that of the meng I have dated, they have given me some quite lovely books. M gave me a book on underground tunnels of London which was AMAZING. L gave me a book on the 4 Colour Maps Problem. After the giving away books he'd already given to me debacle, J gave me books on Trilobytes and err, Lost Rivers of London. I gave him books on art and optical illusions. Our libraries were truly complimentary. S used to come back from meetings with his publisher and bring BAGFULLS of free books.

The only boy who ever gave me Anais Nin was P, and maybe that should have been a warning sign. If that wasn't, then the Houllebeque bloody well should have been!

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I would give houllebecq to a girl

Subtractive Synthesis (Subtractive Synthesis), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

best euphemism ever

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I suspect that didn't work. Let's try again.
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Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I got the coolest error message from that!

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

that man would probably be tokyo rosemary

I have that pink cover edition SIGNED. Suprise, suprise.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

My ex-husband lent me a copy of Harlan Ellison essays on our first date. Which impressed me as we were both high school students and I didn't know many boys who read for pleasure (and who I considered dateable).

Some dude whom I dated a couple of years back gave me a phillip roth book which was a total drag. He was such a phillip roth kind of guy it was destined not to work out. A first conversation with a guy I really crushed on was about more obscure Salinger stories, ding ding ding!

My current guy struggled throughout his childhood with dyslexia and learning disabilities so never learned to enjoy reading. After teaching many such students, I do not fault him for this and have no issues with loving a man who does not read. More room on the bookshelf for me!

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one guy gave me the celestine prophecy, not a datey guy, just a friend. but that was the beginning of us growing apart i think. all other books anyone has given me have been hits to a greater or lesser degree, whatever the motives of the giver.

emsk ( emsk ), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

For the geeky girl, being given books is like one step beyond the mixtape of Romance.

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think a guy (or at least a datey guy) has ever given me a book. Unless a Smiths comic book counts, and it probably should not.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I gave my wife a copy of Story of the Eye when we were friends. I can't say "DON'T give a love interest a copy of Story of the Eye" since it all worked out, but in hindsight it seems like an audacious move.

Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

There's more to life than the internet, I know, but not much more.

Is this our friend C who's now worked in two jobs with Mister Monkey? I didn't know he has his own company, but I'm not surprised. He's got a missus who does all the reading, no?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, who gave you Stranger in a Strange Land?

Framed black and white photos of two hobo children kissing made me think of this:

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It's not so much that I would dislike someone who liked this book as I would dislike someone who was so dim as to have ever spoken one word to me and yet still somehow think that I would like this book.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

BOOOOO. I meant:

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Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I would dislike someone who gave me any Ayn Rand, though.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this our friend C who's now worked in two jobs with Mister Monkey?

That is the very chap.

Anne Geddes wants kicking.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link


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