2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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offering to suspend the campaign didn't get the traction he wanted and then the economy went haywire and his base just totally lost their shit and he was as clueless as anyone on what to say to them.

It reminds me of Alfred's statement to his parents about Huckabee

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

later that same day, mccain sternly disabused an elderly woman of her notion that barack obama was made of titanium, with a robot brain controlled by the ghost of joseph stalin.

a sensible response!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

mccain didn't say shit himself cause he had sarah fucking palin ffs

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still w/Sullivan in thinking that not adequately vetting his Veep basically cancelled any seriousness he might have claimed. It was a really dumb move.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

He was never serious, just old.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

sarah fucking palin

"that's my name, don't wear it out"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C5fsqBNluRQ/TffBsv8pI0I/AAAAAAAAEl4/0mJUILL2df0/s1600/11Sarah-Palin.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's okay for Sully to believe it because he's a nominal conservative.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

she signs it that way, like ice motherfucking cube
xp

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I dont get the 'no personal attacks on obama in 2008'. what was all that bullshit about his pastor we had to hear about for like 6 fucking months?

mayor jingleberriez, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

The equivalent of swift-boating, grandson to red-baiting.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA&feature=youtu.be

polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

what is up with that guy?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

gay+drunk

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

there's something wrong with this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas

omg

the deli llama, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

he's at .7% on intrade right now...that's a pretty decent gamble.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

... who said our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas

I mean, the stores certainly seem to be encouraging the celebration of everything

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

It's the War On Christmas all over again! Will this horror never end?

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas

LOL, this reminds me of ppl who misrepresent the 1st Amendment

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Sully linked to this:

Rick Perry opposes the swift and meaningful U.S. responses to human rights abuses of LGBT persons abroad. And he would never ever engage International Organizations in the fight against LGBT discrimination. Again, Perry sympathies with the abuser, not the victim.

Ideologically, it’s difficult to conceptualize a greater enemy to gay people. Santorum, perhaps. But never has there ever been in modern times a President who held the level of personal animosity that Rick Perry has for you. Not Eisenhower, not Nixon, not Johnson, not Reagan, and neither Bush. It is inconceivable that Perry could have the personal gay friendships of Reagan, the gay appointments of the Bushes, and certainly not the supportive views of Carter, Clinton, Ford, or Obama. None of the other credible GOP candidates, Romney, Gingrich, or even Bachmann would be worse.

We very seldom use the term “hate” to categorize a politicians views. It seldom is accurate. But I concur with Jim completely: Rick Perry hates you. Deeply.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

re: that video, man what a prick

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Apt metaphor.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think open celebration of Christmas is appalling. I would, perhaps, sign on to a don't-ask-don't-tell policy with regards to the celebration of Christmas.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

just how awful do you want to be while you stroll up a hill in a jacket we can all relate to, what an asshole. i feel like the particular field of misrepresenting positions in ads & debates is its own little corridor of human awfulness

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

the day after he's sworn in for his second term, pres. obama will sign two executive order, banning christmas celebrations -- anywhere -- and outlawing christianity -- everywhere. it is written in the stars.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

Sad Erick Erickson is sad. (Keep in mind that for all his apparently heartfelt blather this is a guy who seems to use his Christianity as a get-out-of-jail-free/'we're all bad and I confess this every week at church!' card when he calls people goatfuckers on Twitter so if anything he should be sympathetic to Newt, really.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

And by the way DARK HORSE.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

In all honesty and candor and recognizing we all fall short of the glory of God, I do not know that I can support a man who is on his third wife having cheated on his two prior wives. It is very much more the adultery than the marriages. Many of my friends have marriages that do not work out.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ the pining for Jeb Bush btw

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

The chatter about potential new entrants include former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, businessman Donald Trump, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint.

lol strong candidates here.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

but i like the jeb bush idea!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

the idea that the nation as a whole is not completely soured on the Bush family is hilarious

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

what about mark sanford? he only cheated on one wife

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

but Romney cheated on a movement!

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, Shakey. I think Neil might have fit in nicely with some of the recent Pres candidates.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

the nation as a whole is soured on the Bush family

oh i know

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe I'm wrong, but are they not past the point of no return as far as getting in now goes?

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

Remember: the nation as a whole soured on the GOP in 2009, heralding a new rebirth of liberalism.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

that Snagglepuss image is the first decent thing on these GOPobsessive hen party threads.

Attacking Rev Wright (that was his name?) was not PERSONAL, cuz as Bill Maher pointed out Obama is too smart to REALLY be a Christian. /mattarmstrong

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

pfffff, u.s. is a hard-right nation in all but the broadest sense, and nothing in 2009 changed that. it's basically GOP-controlled except when there's a severe recession (bush I or II) or some huge nat'l disgrace (watergate)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

The U.S. isn't left, right, or anything nation other than what socioeconomic forces dictate at that moment.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

GOP has controlled the presidency for 20 of the last 30 years, with the only breaks being, as i say, post watergate and during recessions.

or, put it a different way: when times are good, we say "hands off, gov't." when times are bad, we say, "help us!, gov't."

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

It's cyclical -- Democrats controlled every branch of government from 1932 through the eighties.

I won't take credit for this Burke quote: "Every political question I have ever known has had so much of the pro and con in it that nothing but the success could decide which proposition was to have been adopted."

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

well, that's fair, but at 30 years now, i think we can say this has been a long rightward drift, with some bursts of progressivism along the way.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Sully's all hard at the though of his wee Eddie Burke's apposite aphorism

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

but at 30 years now

I think it's fair to say that the WASPs have moved farther to the right as their predominance has waned but they're losing more and more battles and as they get older, they're more and more dogmatic though less in a principled way than a mostly nostalgic emotional one.

As to economics, we conceivably know more than we did 30 years ago but then so do the masters of the universe wrt to evading controls/exerting political influence

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Our system is intrinsically conservative; it's designed to occlude all but the faintest of seismic shifts. That's how the Framers intended it.

"Conservative" in this sense has nothing to do with left- or right-wing.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ OTM

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

that's also true, but doesn't detract from my point.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

You know, for all the knob-slobbering this country engages in wrt the founding fathers and the way they rigged our republic up to not fall prey to the demagoguery and dictatorships of past republics, the conservative nature of our government (in Milord Sotosyn's sense) may have prevented the wild slides and coups of many other modern republics (Africa and the rest of the Americas come to mind) but perhaps the coup has just been a long, slow one. From a part Libertarian, part Liberal perspective, Eisenhower's military-industrial complex alongside some other important industries like high finance have essentially taken over. Is that different than the industrial barons and the slaveholding plantation owners of the 19th century? I'm not sure.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

GOP has controlled the presidency for 20 of the last 30 years, with the only breaks being, as i say, post watergate and during recessions.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

Without the judicial coup in 2000 it could easily have been 16 of the last 30 for the Dems. Maybe 20.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link


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