2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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one thing I've always thought curious was how few comments a lot of widely publicized economist-type articles get. considering that tens of thousands of people are gonna read what you write, it actually seems like a decent use of your time?

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

It's not Obama's policies that are the problem, it's Obama and everything he represents and stands for.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

[Approved commenter] Teflon93
: 12/06/11 16:59

Voice in the wilderness, Michael, voice in the wilderness. You are manning the last bastion of conservatism at a once-great magazine.

"Don't attack Obama" is a RINO tic. Most of America can't stand that jugheaded, prissy, sonorous, stentorian, pedantic, phony, lying, mom-jeans-wearing can't-ride-a-bike-without-a-helmet throws-like-a-sissy little girly-man. He's played more golf this year than Tiger Woods and would have played more if only some tee boxes faced somewhere besides Mecca. The man couldn't lead a drunk to a bathroom, much less speak to children without teleprompters.

What precisely does Little Lord MittleRoy intend to attack him with then? His slightly greater embrace of abortion? That Obama didn't copy Romneycare quite closely enough? That Obama wanted a cap on carbon emissions slightly higher than Romney does (right now)? That Romney, architect of a Massachusetts economic miracle equivalent to Oral Roberts turning an able-bodied man into a cripple, will somehow be better for the economy? That Romney will oppose the gay marriages he enacted in the Bay State? That Romney will challenge Obama's quadrupling of the deficit by merely doubling it?

Attack the enemy. Forget the fifth column.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

(emphasis added)

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

that jugheaded, prissy, sonorous, stentorian, pedantic, phony, lying, mom-jeans-wearing can't-ride-a-bike-without-a-helmet throws-like-a-sissy little girly-man

this is the greatest description of a president i have ever read.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

John Galt : 12/06/11 16:38
You are dreaming. That only works if both sides adhere to those rules.
We already know the Democrats/MSM will personally attack any GOP candidate and do so without remorse. The only way to achieve parity is to fight back.
Look at McCain. He went out of his way to not personally attack Obama. Yet he himself was repeatedly labeled as mentally unstable and worse. Heck, the NY Times even fabricated a story claiming an extra-marital affair.
These people will stop at nothing to re-elect "their" guy. If you think "being reasonable" will beat their tactics, you will lose.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol I had completely forgotten about that NY Times article

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Look at McCain. He went out of his way to not personally attack Obama.

stunned by this, tho it was true -- to some extent -- in the immediate shadow of election day (when it was clear that mccain was in trouble and maybe looking for higher-ground upon which to be judged historically).

but still: lol/smh.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

just trolled that post. we'll see how it goes. "trolling" = saying something halfway reasonable...

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've posted stupid derogatory things which get approved and intelligent ones that don't, so good luck!

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

<i>stunned by this, tho it was true -- to some extent -- in the immediate shadow of election day</i>

Yes--McCain turned gracious the last week, when it was pretty clear he was going to lose. There was at least a month before that of people shouting out disgusting stuff at rallies without any reaction from McCain or Palin, both of whom would excuse such stuff with a) Bush got just as bad, and b) it was only a tiny percentage of the people there--both true, and so what? The idea that he was this beacon of integrity all the way through is preposterous.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

risible, even

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

there was a famous moment of a woman at a Q&A starting to say something about "that arab" and mccain grabbing the mic back and chiding her!

i have no idea what was in the man's heart but he did not ride that particular tiger very well, whether it was conscience or incompetence or some sense of strategy who knows.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

How's this for a speculation: if Newt still leads after Super Tuesday, the very fact that he might be able to grab the most powerful job in the world will temporarily sober him enough that he'll curb his mouth until the election, allowing the powerful rightwing media machine to project a new public image for him that is more presidential and acceptable to MOR independents. He'll lay low, play along, keep on message like a good lad, and only blow up in January of 2013.

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

are you hard

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

I just can't see Newt being able to do that

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

there was a famous moment of a woman at a Q&A starting to say something about "that arab" and mccain grabbing the mic back and chiding her!

yeah this was in the last month of the campaign or so. woman said something about her not being sure if Obama was an American and maybe he was a muslim and McCain took the mic away from her and said "no, that's not true."

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

I just can't see Newt being able to do that

yeah. I mean what are you basing this scenario on - when megalomaniacs get a taste of power they get MORE megalomaniacal, not less

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Snagglepuss A+

Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

I love that American and Muslim are mutually exclusive to that oaf.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

um no we all love Snagglepuss

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up7lApgjW-Q

Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Re: newt. When the toad feels the arrival of spring, he cannot help but engorge himself with air and croak, eh?

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Three months after Super Tuesday, and a week before the Republican convention, Newt's handlers allow him to conduct a three-minute press conference:

http://nikijay.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/9877148551e445a308517127bb43f0ec-image-276x300.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

various reiterations of mccain's laziness at turning righteous itt are v otm - it frustrates me to occasionally hear him lauded for his good conduct when he let that shit run on for a long time, & corrected the woman in the crowd when it had got ridiculous & was a sensible political move to stand up against.

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

offering to suspend the campaign didn't get the traction he wanted and then the economy went haywire and his base just totally lost their shit and he was as clueless as anyone on what to say to them.

It reminds me of Alfred's statement to his parents about Huckabee

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

later that same day, mccain sternly disabused an elderly woman of her notion that barack obama was made of titanium, with a robot brain controlled by the ghost of joseph stalin.

a sensible response!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

mccain didn't say shit himself cause he had sarah fucking palin ffs

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still w/Sullivan in thinking that not adequately vetting his Veep basically cancelled any seriousness he might have claimed. It was a really dumb move.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

He was never serious, just old.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

sarah fucking palin

"that's my name, don't wear it out"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C5fsqBNluRQ/TffBsv8pI0I/AAAAAAAAEl4/0mJUILL2df0/s1600/11Sarah-Palin.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's okay for Sully to believe it because he's a nominal conservative.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

she signs it that way, like ice motherfucking cube
xp

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I dont get the 'no personal attacks on obama in 2008'. what was all that bullshit about his pastor we had to hear about for like 6 fucking months?

mayor jingleberriez, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

The equivalent of swift-boating, grandson to red-baiting.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA&feature=youtu.be

polyphonic, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

what is up with that guy?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

gay+drunk

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

there's something wrong with this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas

omg

the deli llama, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

he's at .7% on intrade right now...that's a pretty decent gamble.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

... who said our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas

I mean, the stores certainly seem to be encouraging the celebration of everything

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

It's the War On Christmas all over again! Will this horror never end?

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas

LOL, this reminds me of ppl who misrepresent the 1st Amendment

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Sully linked to this:

Rick Perry opposes the swift and meaningful U.S. responses to human rights abuses of LGBT persons abroad. And he would never ever engage International Organizations in the fight against LGBT discrimination. Again, Perry sympathies with the abuser, not the victim.

Ideologically, it’s difficult to conceptualize a greater enemy to gay people. Santorum, perhaps. But never has there ever been in modern times a President who held the level of personal animosity that Rick Perry has for you. Not Eisenhower, not Nixon, not Johnson, not Reagan, and neither Bush. It is inconceivable that Perry could have the personal gay friendships of Reagan, the gay appointments of the Bushes, and certainly not the supportive views of Carter, Clinton, Ford, or Obama. None of the other credible GOP candidates, Romney, Gingrich, or even Bachmann would be worse.

We very seldom use the term “hate” to categorize a politicians views. It seldom is accurate. But I concur with Jim completely: Rick Perry hates you. Deeply.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

re: that video, man what a prick

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Apt metaphor.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think open celebration of Christmas is appalling. I would, perhaps, sign on to a don't-ask-don't-tell policy with regards to the celebration of Christmas.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

just how awful do you want to be while you stroll up a hill in a jacket we can all relate to, what an asshole. i feel like the particular field of misrepresenting positions in ads & debates is its own little corridor of human awfulness

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

the day after he's sworn in for his second term, pres. obama will sign two executive order, banning christmas celebrations -- anywhere -- and outlawing christianity -- everywhere. it is written in the stars.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link


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