OCCUPY SANDBOX

And why are you more concerned about an anecdote where two of our veterans hung it upside down than the moment where cops tore it down and trampled it in the mud?

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literally anyone in america can show up and 'be a protester' and that means some stupid shit is gonna happen sometimes

finally, performance artist Spank gets to do his thing

xxp: because that's not in the article, hoos.

My friend Michael has fucking PTSD after he worked in Iraq as an interrogator. He knows what the fuck an upside down flag means.

Like, fucking with the American flag isn't going to cause the people I know who are conflicted about OWS to dust off their lit crit skills and really think about it.

Maybe they could dust off their knowledge of the flag code if they're so concerned about it.

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why, i think that's some kind of tent in the middle of k street

christ some of the glassdoor reviews of jtf are awesome (i'd take this to the wall st. thread but it isn't on the sandbox):

"Compensation's a joke until you get through the training program, as the training salary won't even cover rent and unless something's changed you hand over ALL your leads till you reach a certain quota, then they start you on opening accounts and you hand over ALL of them until your reach another quota. My advice: you'll know pretty quickly whether this firm is for you. If not, and you have other options, go elsewhere. Otherwise be prepared to burn through your savings (including several hundred for your 7/63 books and whatever you need to live during the wholly unpaid study period) and pray you land a whale if/once you get started on your own book.

In short, it's like living in Boiler Room without the FBI showing up. They are scrupulous about staying within the letter of the law but if you're not right for the company you won't know until you take the job. If you are, I wish you the best and hope you make money hand over fist. On a lighter note, be prepared for all-day CNBC and reruns of war movies set in ancient Greece or Rome. Not much else is gonna play on those screens."

"$300/week to start with no benefits but that's standard, so have money saved or expect to live like a homeless person for 3-6 months. 16+ hour workdays can be expected and you must be in on Saturday until you start rolling in big money for the firm. Say goodbye to everyone you've ever loved. If you are not 100% committed, you will fail. Best case scenario as a junior broker is that you open 10 accounts, you aren't fired on the 9th account, and you start opening your own book of business.

Lead management has megalomaniacs that are at times overbearing with threatening rants. Some of the broker teams have zero intellectual capacity for fundamental/technical analysis, and simply follow aggressive scripted pitches. If you are placed with these teams, adapt and expect to churn and burn like them, because they will not let you create your own style of pitching. If your team lets you, do your own due diligence or you may spend more time trying to retain clients after massive losses rather than raising money from them."

"A lot of people on the internet bash John Thomas Financial, calling it a boiler room and what not. It is NOT a boiler room, anywhere you go to become a broker, you will have to make cold calls, of course unless you already know 20 millionairs who are willing to dish over there hard earned money to you (and whoever knows that many millionairs, are rich themselves and come from wealthy families and live off daddy til there 35, and take over all his money once he passes away)"

I'd almost feel bad for ppl at JT Marlin JTF if you didn't have to be a huge schmo to consider such a job in the first place.

Also, apparently, they hire pretty much anyone.

oh hai we're in yr lobbying-legislative nexus pitchin our tentz

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ok, one more on JTF and I'm done: http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-299-7859

Totally amazing, but takes a few pages in to get really wild (murder trial, sec investigation...). Feels like a draft a a george saunders story or something.

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Big Union and a few anarchists are really messing up K Street right now #ows — @mainer23482 via Twitter

annoyed, hoping k street protesters can wrap up before rush hour. being a pain in the ass isn't gonna win you any fans. #occupymycommute — @ASchach via Twitter

This Occupy thing is getting in the way of my lunch plans... :-/ | RT @timcraigpost: 14th street now closed at K street #occupydc — @AnnaCloeter via Twitter

I hope all of the #occupydc protesters get a nasty cold for playing all day in the rain. — @stefanle via Twitter

Really upset with #occupydc. I WANTED to sign on to your movement, but seeing what you've done renders you completely useless. GO HOME. — @AaronMoFoFrench via Twitter

people are the greatest

can't be stopped can't be tamed

an easy commute home via traffic-free streets is a basic american right and you are taking it away from them

k st, renowned for its swiftly-moving afternoon traffic

all those poor lobbyists trying to get home at 2 in the afternoon

ha mike just got arrested ~again~

can't be stopped can't be tamed

Hoos, just remember that most americans's would subscribe to the observation of Sam Rayburn: "any jackass can kick a barn down, but it takes a carpenter to build one."

You have to offer something constructive, other than anger and wilding around in the streets or most of america will tune you out.

what, they built a barn like yesterday

Yeah, get busy with that.

OccupySF now basically defunct btw. police raided it this morning after the camp couldn't agree on whether to move to a different location in the Mission that the mayor had offered. Cops complained that the people they had been dealing with were no longer in the camp and that the camp was now mostly homeless people.

sounds like occupysf should just change its name to 'sf'

k st, renowned for its swiftly-moving afternoon traffic

― screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Wednesday, December 7, 2011 1:55 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Dozens of commuter bus routes use K St. as a major part of their downtown drop-off route. I take a bus that picks up from K. St on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I leave early on those days to pick up my kids from my wife who is in community college. I don't work for a lobbying firm.

There's this obvious temptation for the ows to devolve into playing cat-and-mouse games with the cops, as if tweaking the cops's noses will somehow translate as sticking it to the oppressors. But for those standing outside the hijinks, they look like foolish games, not polticial acts, because the cops are mostly irrelevant to the most basic concerns of the 99%.

^^^

old ppl itt

Lots of people who ride into DC work for non-profits and government agencies and even like, construction jobs and shit. Some people start work at 6 in the morning and get off at 2. Disrupting traffic is really lame.

xp otm

Gotta agree here. Although personally I could care less about blocking traffic, it just never seems to play out well in the media. It's not tactically astute.

You have to offer something constructive, other than anger and wilding around in the streets or most of america will tune you out.

― Aimless, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 2:23 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

agree completely--that's why i'm part of the outreach committee that's working with established dc activist & community service groups to build their capacity with our personpower, and why i've volunteered hours of my time in our kitchen feeding the homeless from franklin square, and why i work to organize teach-ins on people's rights.

the strength of direct action is that the activity is metaphor for the message, and that reporting the activity itself makes the message inescapable: occupy k street, home of the lobbying pipeline that transfers money from wall street into the coffers of our legislators. it shouldn't be all we do, and it isn't, but it ~is~ what gets cameras on us despite my best efforts to get them into our other initiatives.

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yeah, i'm old. check back with me in about 20 years iatee and tell me what you accomplished with ows and how you feel baout it then. as soon as ows starts to look like boys pursuing fun and games through lawbreaking, you've lost and you may as well pull up stakes and go live at home with your parents.

keep up the great job you're doing, hoos. thx. i appreciate how you insert your good sense into your actions.

xxp- hoos just admit once and for all that this is nothing but a matter of yr personal vendetta against the 16Y

One of my uncles was a Brown Beret when he was my age, and my mom (visiting this week) told me that he's been calling her excitedly all the time "living vicariously through your posts on Facebook." Said Uncle has always been one of my heroes, and it basically made my heart blow up to hear this.

getting - and keeping - media attention is difficult and old ppl progressives on the internet (including basically everyone on ilx except morbs) were pretty cynical about early OWS methods and the people involved. I'm not gonna defend every single way people go about this and I don't think I need to (tho blocking traffic is an inherent good regardless).

posts very much in character

I like this new crankier iatee.

iatee, clue me in when you have some kids that you have to pick up and I'll stop by and tie your shoelaces in a knot.

thanks guys I'm taking notes for the GA: "make sure the revolution inconveniences nobody, ever"

I must assume you were distracted and not paying attention. Luckily, we wrote it all down for you.

thanks I will help you open up ms word later

blocking traffic is an inherent good?

really?

remember who you're talking to

I just usually think of things like "people not getting killed" or "people getting fed" or "people having a job" as being inherent goods, was not aware of the dastardly evil that is moving from one place to another on a public thoroughfare.

again, remember who you're talking to

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wtf iatee, get outta your bubble. Inconveniencing struggling single parents who happen to depend on cars will not help your media image.

you heard em hoos, let the struggling single parents through

take the Metro, have fewer kids.

sarcasm won't help your image either xp