Dear ILE - a plea

Hold on, John. In order to demonstrate that object A exists, don't you have to prove that object A is predicated of y(stopped posting because of bullying)?

Some people will learn
Some never do
But they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain
Yeah, they'll complain and complain and complain and complain and complain

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Hell ;)

i haven't resumed so much bcz it is after all TIME-DEVOURING and i kinda felt i wanted to get stuff done elsewhere a bit and make my fortune and that and then one day come back and you will all want to be my friends but i will DISDANE you haha

Oh wait, that was me. BUT I BET YOU DID IT TOO

So much for inviting YOU to the London FAP.

Mark: How about, at least from now until nuILE is ready, people DON'T react to any other popular forum demons with barbed comments, malicious witticisms, or just pointless blunt abuse, every single time they post.

Lex: lots of people seem unable to tell when they're crossing the line from banter into vicious bullying

How about some people not taking every criticism of things they say as bullying, rather just an observation that they aren't OTM and aren't getting showered in hugglez? Lex's comment cuts both ways: why can't some people see banter as banter and not as bullying? For example, people attack Louis personally. He encourages it! God knows how or why he does, but bless him for it. (I realise there is a middle ground where people are made to feel like shite, but some people can't tell black and white from shades of grey)

Johnney B: Oh, it's their opinions that you dislike? Attack their opinions to shit, really attack them, show the world how they are wrong. But don't attack them personally, or they'll probably ignore you.

See above about recipients of criticism who can't tell the difference. Then wonder why you're getting ignored when you are criticising a person and not their opinions (then wait for a thread on how opinions maketh the person).

Kate: I mean, I'll be perfectly honest about why I started mine own little Balkan - because I was being repeatedly and focusedly bullied on a variety of threads by very specific individual(s), which was killing those threads. A single thread to corral my chatter also had the result of the ability to ban bullies focused on a person.

Get one fucking blog. You had a whole board (which you locked) for this self-centred bollocks. You now shout at, or ignore, people who you don't agree with you on what is a public part of a public messageboard. Might I suggest if you didn't rise to whatever bait was being dangled at you that the threads you refer to might not have been killed in the first place?. Actually, why am I even bothering? You probably think I'm a bully though all I've actually done is try to point out to you exactly why you're the focus of some of this shit (look back on other FITES we've had on the watercooler and show me ONE that is bullying you as opposed to me disagreeing with your view on something, go on.)

Ronan: That's the same reason football threads are some of the most enjoyable, even though I'm no expert I find myself posting on them more because at least there is banter, and it's fairly constant (eg Liverpool always shit etc)

Also, when all other targets are gone, we can all still laugh at DJ Martian.

when did '133t' speak take off on ILE anyway?...I remember when Mark S and Starry would interact and I was like: WTF are they SAYING?

That's not 1337-speak, that's Molesworth as any fule no.

This whole thread is shite. You don't like the way ILE is, ignore it, react against it, drown it in a sea of kittens (actually, don't do that), leave, set up "I love old-ILE", whatever. But, fuck it, this meta "I want it like this" "no, I want it like that" shit is dull. NO-ONE CAN WIN! I can't believe I spent so long reading this. Make it what you want, find a way to deal with it, or fuck off. Me and Ned and teh_kit and stet and RJG and Kate and Sam and Dom and Nabisco and accentmonkey and Uncle Tom Cobleigh are all as much part of this as anyone else and no-one gets to define it any more (if they ever did to start with). The day I can't be arsed any more, I'll leave. The internet is fucking huge. I'll find somewhere else.

(there are many MANY other things people have said on this thread I disagree with. Most of them have been eloquently countered. I can't be arsed OTMing them, I just wanted to make a point, probably because I'm convinced from things she's said and done that I am one of these terrible people that's bullying Kate). Now I'm off to bang my head against a wall, and tomorrow I will continue to post to ILE like I did before.

xpost: In other, lighter-hearted, news, I saw Mark S' doppelganger outside my work today.