Premier's top 20 most-overrated movies

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that wasn't mean to sound smug TOM, I was just trying to distance myself from the serious film types.

remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway yeah everybody otm at the utter pathetic laziness of making lists trashing "overrated" anything when there are no objective criteria whatsoever for either the rating, over or under, the person(s) doing this "rating" are vague, cloudy concept, perhaps reflected in the 2000 census, perhaps reflected in the authors' bathroom mirrors after moo tinny martoonies, and not even a semblance of a frame to the debate in time or space. It's like at least Jay-Z tells us the one problem he DOESN'T have, this type of shit is strictly lazy livejournal horseshit, a bunch of humanities grads bitching about last week's weather and getting paid for it.

TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I could get paid for it.

remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

remy you would have to think I was some kind of insane person to think that somebody talking about their fellow film school kids and 20something netflix hobbyists is trying to be smug! Trust me, I know!

TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost google adwords dude

TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Nashville slam=Way to piss on a grave folks*
*Altough it was probably written before Altman died. Can't wait for the printed obit.

This list was actually published I think nearly a year ago. Though it's nice to see a boring list ignored here for once, until now.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i think they meant top 20 corniest movies for middlebrow ironists. gone with the wind and the wizard of oz are horrible, but i think easy rider, clerks, field of dreams, good will hunting and moonstruck are all good movies, and chariots of fire, while not quite great, is elevated above merely good by the performances. american in paris is great. then again, i have a higher tolerance for corn than the average critically-inclined person.

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

they might have done better to pick an underrated alternative, like cast away >> forrest gump, but they probably don't like that either

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.

nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

wizard of oz is in no way horrible

Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Thing about Wizard of Oz is that it's harmless, isn't it; a bit of deliberate pop entertainment that's now a cherished tradition wot's on the TV on certain holidays and in dorm rooms. It ain't aiming at some modern-era oscar-grabbing middlebrow status(see all the ones on the list made after the mid-90s).

But yeah, having an "underrated" list is a far better use of time & column space.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I really liked Field of Dreams, and Carter Burwell's music(along with james earl jones & burt lancaster) more than made up for the late-'80s boomer angst grafted onto Malamud's book.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, the book was written by W.P. Kinsella, and James Horner did the score.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

But other than that, I agree with you.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard of Jules and Jim!

Wasn't the Red Shoes some corny 'erotic' drama with David Duchovny?

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, you're right. i'm confusing it with The Natural & Miller's Crossing.

xp

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

field of dreams = disturbing study of masculine sentimentality

(and constner is an inert gblob)

jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

THAT MOVIES SO OVERRATED

jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Chicago! I can't recall much about it though.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

replace 'american beauty' with 'road to perdition', which i still maintain is the most boring film ever made.

deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I only like the bit where the bag is blowing around in the wind in American Beauty. Damn, that's so emo of me.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"parodistic"?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

This list makes no sense.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

road to perdition, yes, possibly most boring ever made.
I LOATHE american beauty. that film made me so angry! so bad on so many levels. saw it with friends at a packed theater @ union station and was yelling at the screen it made me so irrationally angry

that and "bottle rocket" UGH

daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha the critique of Jules and Jim is so biting! "The end's basically not as great as the great beginning." Yeah you really stuck it to that flick.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

whoa dar1a. u h8 bottle rocket?

69 (pete), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Road to Perdition at least has Paul Newman being Paul Newman, more than can be said for American Beauty.

I really, truly hated Jules and Jim, but the exact reasons are fuzzy. But I've hated every Truffaut I've seen - sooner or later will have to borrow The 400 Blows just to make sure I can write him off completely.

milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, given the quality of movies made from graphic novels since its release, Road to Perdition doesn't look quite so bad. I'd rather watch it again than Sin City or V for Vendetta.

milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

#1 underrated movie of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVH5JxdM-i0

milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, see, I thought I hated it but I saw it a long time ago. is it a total pisstake or not?

I don't think I like truffaut either

daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

road to perdition is so much worse than any other film based on a graphic novel. paul newman sleepwalks through it. i guess daniel craig is pretty good. whatever, it's horrible.

actually it's still better than that deadening manga-esque film 'renaissance' (which also features daniel craig providing the voice for the lead character...hmm..)

deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Field of Dreams thing is the one most perplexing to me, I mean "the sweetness of Ray Liotta"?

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Agree:
American Beauty
Chicago
Forrest Gump
Easy Rider
Nashville
Gone With The Wind

Where's Saving Private Ryan and Platoon?

Disagree:
Clerks
Fantasia
The Wizard of Oz (calling this crap is daft btw)
2001: A Space Oddyssey
Moonstruck
Mystic River

Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, there should be a 10 year no-fly-zone for a list like this.

Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no Usual Suspects, no credibility

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

of course, it's much easier to make lists of movies beloved by certain people, which we can then mock.

flicks like Fight Club, or Garden State, or...dare i say it...Napolean Dynamite.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I vaguely remember really enjoying Clerks when it came out, I watched it recently (sort of, was playing on internets while roommate watched for first time) and holy crap, the only vaguely funny thing was "Berserker". Vaguely.

drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"gone with the wind and the wizard of oz are horrible, but i think easy rider, clerks, field of dreams, good will hunting and moonstruck are all good movies, and chariots of fire, while not quite great, is elevated above merely good by the performances"

this is brain-dead! and then he calls himself a "critically-inclined person"

bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think that many Field of Dreams fans consider it a cinematic masterwork - more like "oooh, baseball" and "aww, why wasn't I nicer to my dad before he died of stomach cancer?"

milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

this is brain-dead! and then he calls himself a "critically-inclined person"

try harder next time!

nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry, this thread is unworthy of me (Premiere wd never piss off Kill Bill fans, huh)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Your obsession with Kill Bill is bizarre - the movie's two or three years old, time to move on. (Besides, Pulp Fiction is THE overrated Tarantino.)

milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The Red Shoes is the most glaringly wrong piece of wrongness on this wrong list.

My Mind is Opener than Yours (Modal Fugue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(Even thought it's all "empty" and all.)

My Mind is Opener than Yours (Modal Fugue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

otm

bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

" actually, given the quality of movies made from graphic novels since its release, Road to Perdition doesn't look quite so bad. I'd rather watch it again than Sin City or V for Vendetta.

-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:23 PM. (milo)"

fuck you

" #1 underrated movie of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVH5JxdM-i0

-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:25 PM. (milo)"

FUCK YOU ANY GIVEN SUNDAY IS THE MOST OVERRATED TURD EVER YOU COCKSUCKER

aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

it strikes me that you were probably being sarcastical and whatnot but fuck you anyway imo

aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate a bunch of these films but it's about the most boring list imaginable - "forrest gump" may have been famous in its date but it's completely evaporated from the culture: if you said "life is like a box of chocolates" in mixed company i bet half the people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

"wizard of oz" is the only great movie on this list.

j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"famous in its day," i meant.

i like "jules and jim" but it's out of place in this list anyway, it's like the only remotely obscure (and not very obscure at that) thing here.

j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"forrest gump" may have been famous in its date but it's completely evaporated from the culture: if you said "life is like a box of chocolates" in mixed company i bet half the people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

haha you don't live in the south

latebloomer (clonefeed), Sunday, 3 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Your rights have been forfeited, Ally. By you.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

A few Myspace searches; take results with a grain of salt, but:

Results 1 - 10 of about 250,000 for american beauty.
Results 1 - 10 of about 199,000 for shawshank redemption.
Results 1 - 10 of about 197,000 for beautiful mind.
Results 1 - 10 of about 186,000 for pretty woman.
Results 1 - 10 of about 163,000 for clerks.
Results 1 - 10 of about 133,000 for forrest gump.
Results 1 - 10 of about 10,500 for moonstruck.

lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,472,500 for empire records

deep space nine (deep space nine), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Premiere used to be kind of good, didn't it? Like, in the mid-90's? or was I just 14?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

at the time of its release, my mom's near pathological love of American Beauty disturbed and saddened me.

Joshua Babcock (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Never a grain so salty.

Casuistry (casuistry), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link


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