Let's chat about Atlantic's list of The Top 100 most influential figures in American history.

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michael jackson should be up there

jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The saddest thing about this is the way they steal Walt Whitman's "I contain multitudes" line for Benjamin Franklin's blurb!

nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Madison should be closer to the top, and John Muir amd Robert Moses would seem to be more influential than say Rachel Carson and Frederick Law Olmsted.

It seems like this list is skewed in the same way that VH-1 countdown specials are. It's a snapshot of what would a) placate the greatest number of history snobs that care about such things, b) reflect current status of who is/isn't in favor c) get people to buy the magazine.

People who really need to be on the list:
-Bob Dylan
-William Mullholland
-Ken Kesey
-Carl Sagan
-Jimmy Hoffa
-JFK

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems like this list is skewed in the same way that VH-1 countdown specials are. It's a snapshot of what would a) placate the greatest number of history snobs that care about such things, b) reflect current status of who is/isn't in favor c) get people to buy the magazine.

definitely, for at least some of the choiecs, but looking at it again, it is pretty on the money in other areas. where it seems to break down is in the last 60 years or so, ie in the lifetimes of those who put it together. it's like a serious list with an overlay of boomer navelgazing. a mashup of stars and stripes forever, appalachian spring (ahem) and we didn't start the fire.

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

they should have some balls and try to understand who's influential now.

also, bill gates as a stand in for all tech dudes is pretty lame.

jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

In one of the sidebars in the print edition Dylan tops (or is at least on) the list of 8-10 influential musicians.

grady (grady), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

paul revere

lf (lfam), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I have nothing wrong with the list, but the blurbs make me want to puke.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

not including jfk is nutty: i think the dude who presided over the cuban missile crisis deserves a place above dr spock.

frederick douglass ought to be at least ten spaces higher.

j.d., Thursday, 30 November 2006 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, i don't like how this list disrespects the many years of service that Colonel Sanders gave to our country.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 30 November 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

John F. Kennedy: Not as good at baseball as Jackie Robinson.

Rodney Von Bushwickin The Barbarian Mother-Funky Stay High Dollar Billster (Rodn, Thursday, 30 November 2006 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I blame Sandra Tsing Loh.

OTM.

Casuistry, Thursday, 30 November 2006 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess Dubya's "influence" can't yet be judged, but as the nation may never recover from his reign he should be in the top ten by 2020.

Bill Weber (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Crick ain't on the list 'cause he's a Brit.
xpost on George III, if he hadn't pissed off so many people (via his government obv.) there would even be an America...

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Walt Disney is more influential in US history than all women.

This may sadly be true, tho.

Well, it depends on who's defining influential, no?

Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess Dubya's "influence" can't yet be judged, but as the nation may never recover from his reign he should be in the top ten by 2020.

The accompanying article more or less ends on this point. but i think they put the date at 2050.....

grady (grady), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

paul revere

Paul Revere should be #1 on this list, and Paul Revere and the Raiders should be #1 on the music list, and then RL Stevenson who wrote "Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" should top the authors list. Let's revere him!

Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link


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