2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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I don't get the sense than mr. gingrich is actually fueled by nixonian resentment - he might be able to channel it to get votes, sure - but this is a guy who fancies himself a college professor, smartest guy in the room and about as 'washington insider' as they come. he has too much self-confidence to be nixon-style bitter.

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

the public had a much shorter memory of Dick's bitterness than the media did, at least in '68.

Newt's lack of brains in tactics will likely undo him. Open convention for 19th century nostalgia!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

i used to think this ^^^^ about gingrich, but he seems semi under-control (for now). and the timing is right (he caught fire in the shadow of crucial early caucuses and primaries, which might give him momentum).

lol he isn't going to be the nominee, probably but lol

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

i used to think this ^^^^ about gingrich, but he seems semi under-control (for now)

he's not. Did you see last night's pearls?

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

ew

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

I meant that Nixon's/Gingrich's appeal is based on the resentment of voters that they're able to tap into--the sense of aggrievement. Palin, too. In terms of their own personalities, no, Gingrich doesn't seem to carry around the grudges/bitterness that consumed Nixon. (As I've said before, I don't think there's ever been a politician that could match Nixon in that department.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

he's not. Did you see last night's pearls?

i didn't! what did he say?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

lately I've been waking up each day in eager anticipation of the gems that have dribbled from Newt's lips while I slept

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

it's the blood of poor children -- not gems -- that dribble from newt's lips.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

you people and your effluvia.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/yahoo-exclusive-republicans-disclose-private-call-too-dangerous-175828684.html

conservatives are pissed about this

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Republicans on a private Republican National Committee conference call with allies warned Tuesday that party surrogates should refrain from personal attacks against President Barack Obama, because such a strategy is too hazardous for the GOP.

"We're hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks" personally against President Obama, Nicholas Thompson, the vice president of polling firm the Tarrance Group, said on the call. "There's a lot of people who feel sorry for him."

Recent polling data indicates that while the president suffers from significantly low job approval ratings, voters still give "high approval" to Obama personally, Thompson said.

Voters "don't think he's an evil man who's out to change the United States" for the worse--even though many of the same survey respondents agree that his policies have harmed the country, Thompson said. The upshot, Thompson stressed, is that Republicans should "exercise some caution" when talking about the president personally.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

On the call--which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee

oh man this is classic. fuckin bozos.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

conservatives are convinced that the whole of america (except for the tiny corrupt islands of urban leftism) shares their emotional makeup and outlook on the country. party elites who try to match their messaging and actions as much as possible with popular sentiments find that it's not quite so.

so who's wrong? the people in the bubble, or the people who professionally have to look outside it? depends who you ask:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/285050/stupid-party-michael-walsh

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

that yahoo story has close to 16,000 comments. O_o

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

who do you even think you're expressing your opinion to at that point

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

I almost posted that Walsh thing yesterday...

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

one thing I've always thought curious was how few comments a lot of widely publicized economist-type articles get. considering that tens of thousands of people are gonna read what you write, it actually seems like a decent use of your time?

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

It's not Obama's policies that are the problem, it's Obama and everything he represents and stands for.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

[Approved commenter] Teflon93
: 12/06/11 16:59

Voice in the wilderness, Michael, voice in the wilderness. You are manning the last bastion of conservatism at a once-great magazine.

"Don't attack Obama" is a RINO tic. Most of America can't stand that jugheaded, prissy, sonorous, stentorian, pedantic, phony, lying, mom-jeans-wearing can't-ride-a-bike-without-a-helmet throws-like-a-sissy little girly-man. He's played more golf this year than Tiger Woods and would have played more if only some tee boxes faced somewhere besides Mecca. The man couldn't lead a drunk to a bathroom, much less speak to children without teleprompters.

What precisely does Little Lord MittleRoy intend to attack him with then? His slightly greater embrace of abortion? That Obama didn't copy Romneycare quite closely enough? That Obama wanted a cap on carbon emissions slightly higher than Romney does (right now)? That Romney, architect of a Massachusetts economic miracle equivalent to Oral Roberts turning an able-bodied man into a cripple, will somehow be better for the economy? That Romney will oppose the gay marriages he enacted in the Bay State? That Romney will challenge Obama's quadrupling of the deficit by merely doubling it?

Attack the enemy. Forget the fifth column.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

(emphasis added)

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

that jugheaded, prissy, sonorous, stentorian, pedantic, phony, lying, mom-jeans-wearing can't-ride-a-bike-without-a-helmet throws-like-a-sissy little girly-man

this is the greatest description of a president i have ever read.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

John Galt : 12/06/11 16:38
You are dreaming. That only works if both sides adhere to those rules.
We already know the Democrats/MSM will personally attack any GOP candidate and do so without remorse. The only way to achieve parity is to fight back.
Look at McCain. He went out of his way to not personally attack Obama. Yet he himself was repeatedly labeled as mentally unstable and worse. Heck, the NY Times even fabricated a story claiming an extra-marital affair.
These people will stop at nothing to re-elect "their" guy. If you think "being reasonable" will beat their tactics, you will lose.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol I had completely forgotten about that NY Times article

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Look at McCain. He went out of his way to not personally attack Obama.

stunned by this, tho it was true -- to some extent -- in the immediate shadow of election day (when it was clear that mccain was in trouble and maybe looking for higher-ground upon which to be judged historically).

but still: lol/smh.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

just trolled that post. we'll see how it goes. "trolling" = saying something halfway reasonable...

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've posted stupid derogatory things which get approved and intelligent ones that don't, so good luck!

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

<i>stunned by this, tho it was true -- to some extent -- in the immediate shadow of election day</i>

Yes--McCain turned gracious the last week, when it was pretty clear he was going to lose. There was at least a month before that of people shouting out disgusting stuff at rallies without any reaction from McCain or Palin, both of whom would excuse such stuff with a) Bush got just as bad, and b) it was only a tiny percentage of the people there--both true, and so what? The idea that he was this beacon of integrity all the way through is preposterous.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

risible, even

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

there was a famous moment of a woman at a Q&A starting to say something about "that arab" and mccain grabbing the mic back and chiding her!

i have no idea what was in the man's heart but he did not ride that particular tiger very well, whether it was conscience or incompetence or some sense of strategy who knows.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

How's this for a speculation: if Newt still leads after Super Tuesday, the very fact that he might be able to grab the most powerful job in the world will temporarily sober him enough that he'll curb his mouth until the election, allowing the powerful rightwing media machine to project a new public image for him that is more presidential and acceptable to MOR independents. He'll lay low, play along, keep on message like a good lad, and only blow up in January of 2013.

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

are you hard

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

I just can't see Newt being able to do that

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

there was a famous moment of a woman at a Q&A starting to say something about "that arab" and mccain grabbing the mic back and chiding her!

yeah this was in the last month of the campaign or so. woman said something about her not being sure if Obama was an American and maybe he was a muslim and McCain took the mic away from her and said "no, that's not true."

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

I just can't see Newt being able to do that

yeah. I mean what are you basing this scenario on - when megalomaniacs get a taste of power they get MORE megalomaniacal, not less

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Snagglepuss A+

Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

I love that American and Muslim are mutually exclusive to that oaf.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

um no we all love Snagglepuss

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up7lApgjW-Q

Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Re: newt. When the toad feels the arrival of spring, he cannot help but engorge himself with air and croak, eh?

Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Three months after Super Tuesday, and a week before the Republican convention, Newt's handlers allow him to conduct a three-minute press conference:

http://nikijay.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/9877148551e445a308517127bb43f0ec-image-276x300.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

various reiterations of mccain's laziness at turning righteous itt are v otm - it frustrates me to occasionally hear him lauded for his good conduct when he let that shit run on for a long time, & corrected the woman in the crowd when it had got ridiculous & was a sensible political move to stand up against.

Never translate German (schlump), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

offering to suspend the campaign didn't get the traction he wanted and then the economy went haywire and his base just totally lost their shit and he was as clueless as anyone on what to say to them.

It reminds me of Alfred's statement to his parents about Huckabee

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

later that same day, mccain sternly disabused an elderly woman of her notion that barack obama was made of titanium, with a robot brain controlled by the ghost of joseph stalin.

a sensible response!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

mccain didn't say shit himself cause he had sarah fucking palin ffs

iatee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still w/Sullivan in thinking that not adequately vetting his Veep basically cancelled any seriousness he might have claimed. It was a really dumb move.

M. White, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

He was never serious, just old.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

sarah fucking palin

"that's my name, don't wear it out"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C5fsqBNluRQ/TffBsv8pI0I/AAAAAAAAEl4/0mJUILL2df0/s1600/11Sarah-Palin.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link


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