rolling rap thread

its not, like, great, but the beat & hook are fun enough. total random rap though

so this french montana 'jacking for beats' tape just out with a load of max b verses, are these verses new?

oh dear a david bowie sample.

Yeah, all about the hook on that xpost, and that sporadic snare pattern, their rhymes are pretty lol.

there's a new young gully out, mostly produced by the freshest dj, and featuring an auto-tuned song sampling kp & envyi's swing my way.
:/

what did you all think of kendrick lamar?

how am i meant to take his voice for another 17 tracks?

― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

i could never get over him sounding like roger rabbit

lupe obviously but maybe old angry ice cube-type cats (including ice cube possibly?) and immortal technique types

lol Cube and Killer Mike did an anti-Hillary/pro-Obama track pre-election ("Pressure")

pre-election TRAC

K

what did you all think of kendrick lamar?

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, December 7, 2011 1:09 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

was anyone besides me taking the pepsi challenge w/ kendrick lamar recently? i don't wanna harp on it but his stuff seems very SMART and TASTEFUL and SERIOUS in a 2011 blog rap way that i admire from a distance but have no real interest in engaging in

on one listen it kind of came across like a lupe fiasco without quite so much worthiness (but also without a "kick push"-level track that grabs you by the ear and hooks you in)

yeah the gulf between the excitement AROUND the music and excitement IN the music feels like Jay Electronica all over again tbh

i think krs-one performed at a ron paul rally in mpls recently, or was supposed to unless he flaked out or something

haha krs, THAT's who i should've thought of

yeah the gulf between the excitement AROUND the music and excitement IN the music feels like Jay Electronica all over again tbh

― sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, December 7, 2011 12:46 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

jay electronica had like 2 tracks that had everyone proclaiming him the next coming of nas. i don't think its really comparable

i definitely prefer schoolboy q from that crew, but Kendrick's record engages w/ a lot more of the modern sound of hip-hop. I agree that people looking for a ~deep rapper~ have put way more on him than is fair, but he does a really good job imo of stitching together Lupe-ish ambition with a Drake-esque atmosphere and then being very good at rapping. I recognize the two of these things sound like something bad but ... i like it a lot more than Drake or Lupe, at any rate.

the jay electronica comparison had nothing to do w/ the quantity of music they've released. it's immaterial.

it's definitely like, berkley hippie socially conscious lil b thing but... coherent and pretty well thought out

i think the production is great too, pretty inventive stuff that's definitely in the 'kush & orange juice'/40 shabib universe but not as soundscapey as a lot of that stuff

i think people pushed a lot more of that 'the savior of conscious rap' thing on jay electronica than they do kendrick lamar -- i think lamar is still sorta seen as like a non-gangster weed rapper who actually has something to say. idk, it feels different to me.

yeah i'm probably combining the breathless praise and the imagery of the "HiiiPoWeR" video into an idea of him that is not entirely accurate or faithful to his reputation

that song really gave me k'naan-level do not want vibes, though

thats relly not what his album is about, and i think the number of songs jay electronica has released is entirely material! it was hype over nothing, whereas there is, in fact, a long & interesting record that kendrick dropped that people are largely responding to, and its a lot more diverse than you'd get from just looking at a couple seconds of the hiii power video

yeah, it's definitely not... k'naan

i don't think kendrick is going to be doing a song about world peace with will.i.am and shakira for the world cup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhLLtek4aEQ

ive listened to this one a lot

i mean his twerpy voice is very k'naan

the one w/ GLC on the album is dope

its just an interlude-ish joint btw i wasnt trying to append this to the discussion with al

his voice sounds nothing like kanaans, jesus, not even close`

i still think wiz khalifa and wale have very similar voices too ::shrugs::

i just feel like you're compartmentalizing rappers into such distinct categories that you can't even begin to comprehend someone hearing a very elemental sonic similarity based on something more external and superficial -- it's like "no no they have NOTHING in common, this guy wears doo rags and this guy wears kufis!!!!"

lol, i feel like this cricles back to the basis of the 'regional thug' argument

haha uh oh

the thing i like about kendrick lamar is that he raps better than all those new rappers with a bit of internet hype.

as simple as that

that is also true

and then he can make a good song, he has some really dope production, blogs seems to like him but he's not soft...

yeah i mean he's got better bars than a$ap rocky no doubt

yeah as a technical rapper kendrick is obv preferable to any of the other dudes mentioned in this convo, & i did like a few of the songs on that album but most of them seemed like kind of a mess to me, i really don't get the pac comparisons some ppl (and lamar himself) were pushing, even aside from the laughable implication in terms of quality wrt that comparison i don't feel like he's a very inviting or likeable persona, he's kind of blank actaully

i just feel like you're compartmentalizing rappers into such distinct categories that you can't even begin to comprehend someone hearing a very elemental sonic similarity based on something more external and superficial -- it's like "no no they have NOTHING in common, this guy wears doo rags and this guy wears kufis!!!!"

― sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:49 (1 hour ago) Permalink

thanks for ascribing superficial stupidity to me but now, just, like, on any level they don't have similar voices; neither do Wale and Wiz. the comparisons both seem bizarre to me.

Kendrick has a much less corny flow and vocal tone, he has more control, his voice doesn't dip up in frequency like ka'naan's does. it's nowhere near as corny. i mean, they might have voices at roughly the same frequency but that's true of tons of other rappers as well.

i mean, lamar just sounds cooler and less earnestly eager-to-please than kanaan, and i mean that in the sense of his vocals, never mind his lyrics. Lyrically, Kendrick is also a lot more oblique & less on-the-nose obvious about what his 'point' is, it's a lot more about conveying a feeling than trying to hammer home a message

dying @ lil b being a conscious rapperor whatever btw, boots riley weeps

honestly, I wouldn't carry this argument on if I didn't think that Al would probably like the album a bit more than he realizes based off of the tracks he's sampled -- I can see why he would have that kind of snap judgement, but the record is really diverse & interesting & he's definitely a talented performer, with a lot more depth stylistically than the other artists mentioned here

yeah kendrick actually makes an effort to flip new styles in his actual rapping as opposed to his clothes or his twitter brand

the adhd video is really really cool too

that said he should probably check 'setbacks' first

Here's The Wire's rap list from the year end thread

Chris Brown featuring Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes Look At Me Now (Jive)
Danny Brown XXX (Fools Gold)
Jay-Z & Kanye West Niggas In Paris (Def Jam)
Kendrick Lamar Section 80 (TDE)
Lil B Bitch Mob: Respect Da Bitch Vol 1 (No label)
Meek Mill House Party (Maybach Music Group)
Mr Muthafuckin’ Exquire Huzzah (YouTube clip)
Tyler, The Creator Yonkers (OFWGKTA/XL)
Don Trip & Starlito Step Brothers (No label)
Waka Flocka Flame Duflocka Rant (No label)

haha i find it hard to believe ppl are actually repping for 'respect da bitch'. do i need to listen to it again?

'house party' is fucking amazing

who is writing the wire's hip-hop column now? still noz?

yeah, didn't know he was a fan of "Niggas in Paris" tho