Wall Mounted Television c/d?

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Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that poor woman having to hold it up for everyone to watchbecause the wall-mounting didn't work?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Dickweeds who would rather blow their wad on a >42" flatscreen

we have a 50" flat screen and I can assure you we are not dickweeds.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

There should definitely be a sports bar called Dickweeds.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Listen if it's wall-mounted then I'm afraid there's no way around the dickweed curse.

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha Alba has mistaken the Samsung Nexus Six for a real woman

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ours is not wall mounted. I can't imagine the benefit of that and also it's hella heavy and I would be afraid.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Afraid of being a dickweed?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought the LCD lifespan was good. something about just needing to replace a bulb every now and then. plasma on the other hand just die. people dont even make plasmas anymore do they? sony stopped making them 18 months ago?

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and, ill take the biggest, brightest tv i can get. i love TV! it would never distract me from a puppy though.

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

people be hatin'

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Alba:
"Yes, about a third of the power consumption. Plasma, meanwhile, will eat you out of house and home."

see, that's what i thought but then i saw this in the paper:

http://www.plasma-lcd-facts.co.uk/myths/energy-use/

"Myth
Plasma TVs use more power than their LCD rivals.

Fact
The reality is that plasma TVs don’t necessarily use any more power than LCDs – a fact which makes perfect sense if you think about how each technology works."

so there you go. disclaimer, this was a panasonic advert and panasonic want to sell you plasma tvs. i would take this with a skipload of salt.

http://callforhelptv.com/callforhelp/shownotes/0283.shtml?regular

Samsung plasma:
standby: 1 watt, 0.06 amps
black screen: 65 watts, 0.58 amps
white screen: 256 watts, 2.23 amps
red screen: 232 watts, 2.02 amps
blue screen: 231 watts, 2.13 amps
green screen: 208 watts, 1.80 amps
static: 311 watts, 2.71 amps

Samsung LCD
standby: 10 watts, 0.17 amps
black screen: 200 watts, 2.55 amps
white screen: 199, 2.58 amps
red screen: 199 watts, 2.57 amps
blue screen: 198 watts, 2.57 amps
green screen: 198 watts, 2.96 amps
static: 264 watts, 3.23 amps

seems to vary a lot with what is actually displayed. goths are probably better off with a plasma... (crt readings would be interesting)

(is that our sean carruthers btw?)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

No, that's a Japanese woman with a tv.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

If you mount an LCD to the wall, be carful to angle it downwards. LCDs look afwul when viewed off-center vertically -- they get that solarized look. Plasmas do too, to some extent, but it isn't nearly as bad.

Also, don't LCDs have a really, really long lifespan? I'd think the only thing that'd be sure to die is the florescent backlight, and they have like a 60,000 hour life. If you're worried about a TV dying at 60,000 hours, you watch too much. Stray pixels might start to go bad, but that's not such a big deal either.

Plasmas don't have as long a lifespan, but they are a lot cheaper (and look better, in my opinion).

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the short lifespan of LCD and plasmas puts me off buying one

lcd lifespans are really good, no?

xpost heh

false cat (sleep), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

seriously? LCD tvs are the only tvs that have ever really floored me with how clear and sharp the picture is. plasmas dont look that remarkable to me.

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe you were viewing hdtv?

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

no. these were on my brothers lcd tvs before they had HD in australia

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

- on

sunny successor (katarina), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Plasmas and LCDs have pluses and minuses. LCDs usually have higher resolution (most new ones seem to be 1080p, while typical plasmas are more or less 720p) and don't as much of a "screendoor" effect when viewed up close. Plasma doesn't have the annoying ghosting and the blacks are much blacker. LCDs are probably better for video games and bright material, but I like plasmas better for movies. If they cost the same it'd be a toss-up, but LCDs are like 75% more expensive at the same size.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

You really need to look at these TVs with HD material (or DVD at the very least). How they look with standard def TV usually has more to do with the processing of the particular set more than the underlying plasma or LCD technology.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Plasmas don't have as long a lifespan, but they are a lot cheaper (and look better, in my opinion).

Plasmas aren't a lot cheaper (at non-gigantic sizes, anyway) are they? It's the other way around, I thought.

I seem to be wrong to lump LCD displays in with plasmas when it comes to lifespans. I was just going by what someone once told me, about CRTs lasting for blimmin ever these days (Tombot's experience notwithstanding).

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I am probably out of touch when it comes to plasma/LCD price comparisons. Chris sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I'm sure it used to be the other way around, though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Plasmas are much cheaper than LCDs at the same size. Of course, they don't make plasmas any smaller than 37", and even that size is pretty unusual. Plasmas can last a pretty long time anyway. At least 5 or 6 years, I think. By that time they'll be giving them away with new checking accounts at the bank.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe you're thinking of rear projection LCD or DLP? Those are super cheap, but they can't be hung on a wall.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No, no, I 'm not thinking of those. Maybe it was just that you didn't used to get very big LCDs. Anyway.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

My brother in law has a pretty nice setup -- 40+" HD above the fireplace. The fireplace has a heater insert that he swears is well-enough insulated that the tv doesn't get hot, but I'm not convinced. The cool part is that the DVD and DVR are around the corner in a little recessed niche, with a mirror mounted on the side wall to bounce the IR signal. The only thing visible from the couch is the tv monitor itself.

The PEW Research Center for Panty-Twisting (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Not knowing where Chris is posting from, can this be a country by country difference? Because I don't recall plasmas being markedly cheaper than the LCDs when we had to go to Best Buy to purchase a new television. I didn't research the subject very thoroughly what with it being a quite dire situation, my television dying on a Saturday night and wanting to watch football the very next day and all. But all of the tvs within the size range we were considering seemed to be similarly priced (within $200-300 of one another).

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

what's this about light around the screen reducing eyestrain?

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

By that time they'll be giving them away with new checking accounts at the bank.

TVs and monitors have always seemed to me to be the one electronics thing that hasn't tumbled in price. I mean, yes, flat screens are much cheaper than they used to be, but they doesn't seem much cheaper than a CRT one used to be (though what counts as large screen has increased, of course). I mean, it's not like the way DVD players are now given away for peanuts. Buying a decent TV is going to cost me hundreds of pounds.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in the US. if you get a cheap crappy LCD, it could be pretty close in price to a similar-sized plasma, but in general plasma is cheaper. The gap is narrowing though, so that might not be the case in a year or two. LCDs haven't been sold in really really big screen sizes for long, so I think they're still trying to recoup the R&D costs. Plasma is a little more mature technology.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm particularly interested in this since I need to get a TV. I've never bought one before. I'm not going to get much more than 30" just because of where it's going to go in the room, and I've been astonished at how expensive all the "top deals" and "best picks" are. But just now I've noticed you can get non-HD, non-digital-ready, quality CRTs for like 200 pounds. Since I'm going to get a like 30 pound Freeview box anyway, I don't really care about digital so this seems like the way to go?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

That makes sense, we were looking for a smaller sized (ie under 40 inches) because of where it had to fit into the room, but high quality display; the huge ones were really ridiculously priced.

CRTs were all like $20 at Best Buy, btw.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, this looks good, for instance. I can't find any reviews of it but it's by Bush so it's got to be good, right?

http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_moreinfo/Bush-RF6685VPL-28quot-TV/28026151.html

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

LCD/plasma are such different technologies than CRT that I'll bet the prices will continue to fall, until they're below what CRTs used to cost.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is bad, of course, any anyway, that's a CRT, right?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

(not that there's anything wrong with that, unless you're a dickwad)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, you knew it was a CRT.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

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onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't pay 200 pounds for a non-HD CRT. For that much can't you get an HD CRT, at the very least? Do you have craigslist? There are often some great deals on TVs there, if you don't mind second hand.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know Bush was bad! I thought it was a respected British Brand.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a crappy cheapo British band. Like Alba.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

£200 for an HD-TV? You're 'aving a laugh.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris the way I see it, this way it gets delivered to my door. craiglist or similar means some kind of wild minicab adventure that will cost me at least 20 pounds and a couple of hours of irritation.

xpost Oh!

xpost Ah.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Shame you can't get a nice Sony Trinitron CRT anymore - the (grade one) CRTs at work are bloody marvellous. Watch digibeta on them and wonder why anyone would want HD-anything. ("Because DVD != digibeta, dickweed," sez you).

But, yeah, as small a telly as possible, to minimise the visibility of compression artefacts, I reckon. (Remember when you were sat really closer to the TV at Porkpie/Vicky's one New Year's Eve, Tracer? How bad it looked?) Perfect for Lovejoy reruns.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I was pleased to have my memory confirmed, recently, that I watched an HD-TV demonstration some 20 years ago. I found a thing on the net mentioning how some of the the Los Angeles Olympics was filmed in HD, which is just what I watched at some computer show back then.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess stuff is more expensive over there. 200 pounds is ~$350, right? You could get a CRT HDTV for that here, I think. If you got it used, definitely.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

They had a japanese HDTV demonstration at the American History Museum in DC back in the 80s. I remember it was a lot of really cliched pagotas and water lillies and stuff.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

what about DLP? I've been considering one just from the reviews of the samsung's I've read; admittedly they are thicker than the others so don't save much space, and they have bulbs that will need to be replaced, but the bulbs are only like $100.

the last CRT I bought (five years ago) developed some kind of geometry warp within a year.

(200 pounds is $400 now)

akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Electronics are more expensive specifically, and the pound makes everything more expensive in general. So, yeah.

It is incredibly confusing trying to research this stuff online. I thought this was the big way people were making money on the Internet, by pointing people towards stuff to buy in a helpful way. But I feel like I'm just casting my hook into the sea and coming up with an alphabet soup of model numbers every time.

It's absurd that there are so many TVs, and kinds of TVs. How many different "viewing needs" can people actually have? There should be only two kinds of television made in the world. A big, HD one for rich people and a little, normal one for poor people. Economies of scale would mean that the little one would end up costing like 20 dollars and the big one would be like 300.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

actually they were watching tv last night and i came in and was making some food, and there was this show where some poor people had to come on and justify why they should get given some money by these rich people. and they had to kind of prostate themselves in front of the rich people who then passed judgement on their lives before deciding who they would give their cash to. and i wondered how long it is before there is a show where 2 members of the public go on and one wins a bunch of money and the other has to have a family pet put down

and then there was csi miami where apparently ordinary cops fly to brazil on a whim carrying out personal vendettas to catch drug dealing terrorists.

i cant imagine what this stuff is actually like if you can see it properly.

one of them has now taken to going downstairs on a saturday afternoon, turning the tv on, and immediately going to sleep on the sofa. she even says, do you mind if i put the tv on to sleep

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i managed to spray moth repellent in my eyes. this is worse than looking at Ulster Unionist profiles on myspace

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, there IS something about lying on the sofa after a late night, drifting off to a cooking show or decorating schtick or something that is equally silly but that doesn't necessarily make you doubt the future of the human race.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

My father used to walk into the living room where I was reading, see how quiet it was, turn on the television, and then walk back out of the room.

He wasn't naturally sadistic. He honestly thought(thinks) that a room without some background noise is too weird.

PPlains (PPlains), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

and they had to kind of prostate themselves in front of the rich people

I shudder to think what the verb usage might involve.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I have friends with really bad tinnitus who must have a tv or radio on to sleep.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I would never buy DLP because that girl and her goddamn baby elephant drive us nuts. IT'S THE MEERS!!!! SHUT UP

-- TOMB07 (tombo...) (webmail), January 3rd, 2007 5:29 PM. (trm)

lolol YES

aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link


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