who does he even play for now
― dayo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
suns right?
― cad, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah
― v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
btw this is a great no-nonsense magic highlight tape w/ lots of stuff I hadn't seen before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI
― dayo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
so i don't think camps are even opening until monday now since teams haven't been filled out at all. not sure if we can wait to draft?
yeah I'd rather do this like a day or two before the season starts, but that's Christmas Time and people might be pretty busy / on vacation so maybe the Sunday before? Bison?
― ~occubarn~ (clay), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
if the draft is gonna be this sunday as posted in the league, i need to know soon because it will affect my plans for this weekend
― smh, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
what do yall feel like are good draft days besides the 18th? im hella busy with my church that day and night.
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
afternoon of Saturday the 17th?
― ~occubarn~ (clay), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
POSSIBLY, any other yeasayers?
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
any weekend is good 4 me
― dayo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
p.s. switching up the draft day isn't gonna stop you from losing
― dayo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
basically any time is great for me except the exact time that it's currently set to
― smh, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
that saturday should work and i can also do weeknights
― cad, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
i'm gonna hop in this btw, i'm good w/ any dates besides fri nights & sun mornings
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
i've never played fantasy before & would be interested in doing this but that weekend is no good for me & earlier than that is even worse. go on w/out me
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
k3v you can just autodraft
― dayo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, rank the players when you have a free hour or so and just let it autodraft
― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
or pop in for 20 mins and draft your first four or so guys and then drop out
this is gonna be pretty sweet having more IlH reg posters in the fantasy league this year, amped
― ~occubarn~ (clay), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
I will try and get in on this as well.
― Scotty Magee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
I'll make the change to sat PM on the 17th
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
omg can u guys make a thread for yr horrible fantasy holocaust thx
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
that's a different fantasy league, u draft despots and whoever kills the most ppl wins a trophy
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
ayo i'm cool with this weekend or next but the league still says this sunday
need 2 b in draft b/c i need to DEFEND MY TITLE bam
― concussion section, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't changed it yet, I'm a busy man
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
i trust u m bison its yahoo i dont trust
― concussion section, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski The Spurs have decided to use the amnesty clause on contract of Richard Jefferson, league sources tell Y! Sports. He has 3 years, $30M left.8 minutes ago
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
first guy amnestied!
― cad, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
how does the amnesty clause work? you get to cut ppl?
― The Love Song of L. Alfred Sotosyn (dayo), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
You get to cut them and have to pay them their full contract but it doesn't count against your salary cap. (or it counts less, or something)
― milo z, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
and there's a bidding process for who can sign jefferson (i.e., he isn't a total free agent).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't count at all against cap or luxury tax iirc
― cad, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
The Spurs watch every penny. Small market, you know.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
they're aggressively pursuing caron butler.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol caron butler is not better than richard jefferson particularly
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
true, but apparently he's their target.
maybe they think jefferson has nothing left?
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
there was a big drop-off in r-jeff last year, caron butler we don't know cuz he was injured
― The Love Song of L. Alfred Sotosyn (dayo), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
I wld probably draft tough juice over jefferson right now tho
carons big drop off was like two years ago!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
but maybe he plays more spurs type ball idk recall jefferson wasnt really a good fit as far as what they wanted him to do catch and shoot corner 3s etc
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
BREAKING NEWS: we aren't signing anybody.
not even kwame brown. it's sad we wanted kwame.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
drop-off, or just moving to a team that wasn't the shittiest team in the league
― The Love Song of L. Alfred Sotosyn (dayo), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
we've gotten better!
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
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looking at them his numbers are p consistant over his half season in washington and the second half of the season in dallas the year he got traded so id say theres a good chance the decline is on him
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1705/caron-butler
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
+ Volume scorer who likes to take line-drive, midrange jump shots.
+ Good build and can score in traffic. Quick release. Doesn't see floor.
+ Good hands on defense but middling effort. Uninspired team defender.
I had felt Butler's volume shooting style was a deterrent to Dallas offensively because it subtracted touches from more efficient players; that Dallas replaced him after his injury with three players (Peja Stojakovic, J.J. Barea and DeShawn Stevenson) who shot far less but with a greater true shooting percentage dovetailed nicely with my theory.
Nonetheless, Dallas played extremely well for the 28 full games Butler was around. He averaged a point every two minutes and showed, at the very least, that his scoring could be an effective weapon on the right team. The rest of his sheet was largely empty, however. Butler had an unusually high turnover rate for a jump shooter and rarely set up teammates (he was 60th among small forwards in assist rate). His main feat was shooting 45.3 percent on long 2s -- a shot he took, on average, once every five minutes.
Butler's defensive reputation is poor, but it appeared he tried harder in Dallas than he did in Washington. His stats in a limited sample of games last season were very strong -- an opponent PER of 10.5, one of the highest ratings among small forwards by Synergy, and a 5.3 points per 100 possessions differential. Given his unimpressive results in Washington, that's likely just a small-sample outlier, but we should keep an open mind if the same data crops up again this season. That will be more difficult, alas, as Butler tries to recover from a serious knee injury. As a jump shooter, his offense might not suffer too much, but it might be increasingly difficult for a 31-year-old with a bad wheel to defend the position.
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
omg i finally got the hello this is ball photo
― concussion section, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
supposedly the clippers are after caron butler too.. not sure he's the SF they're looking for but they had a mediocrity parade take the position last year.. lookin at you gomes.
― mayor jingleberriez, Thursday, 8 December 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
this is bulls--t i demand to know where the following players will sign:
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
they are signing w REAL MADRID
― q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
hm. that team is gonna be awesome.
but you're wrong houston's going to sign one of these guys and be the world champions.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link