J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

totally forgot that they got rid of him

― v-shasty, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:51 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

he's so forgotten!

c'mon nba make your crazy trades and settle the storm. we have a fantasy draft on sunday.

― ~occubarn~ (clay), Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:52 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

so i don't think camps are even opening until monday now since teams haven't been filled out at all. not sure if we can wait to draft?

feel like 'poor handle' is a strong clue

but every time I think 'big man with poor handle' I think of that clip of z-bo losing the handle on a cross and hoisting up an airball at the shot clock expiration

― dayo, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 4:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is prob the funniest video on youtube, w/ that music in the background

who does he even play for now

suns right?

yeah

btw this is a great no-nonsense magic highlight tape w/ lots of stuff I hadn't seen before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI

so i don't think camps are even opening until monday now since teams haven't been filled out at all. not sure if we can wait to draft?

yeah I'd rather do this like a day or two before the season starts, but that's Christmas Time and people might be pretty busy / on vacation so maybe the Sunday before? Bison?

if the draft is gonna be this sunday as posted in the league, i need to know soon because it will affect my plans for this weekend

what do yall feel like are good draft days besides the 18th? im hella busy with my church that day and night.

afternoon of Saturday the 17th?

POSSIBLY, any other yeasayers?

any weekend is good 4 me

p.s. switching up the draft day isn't gonna stop you from losing

basically any time is great for me except the exact time that it's currently set to

that saturday should work and i can also do weeknights

i'm gonna hop in this btw, i'm good w/ any dates besides fri nights & sun mornings

i've never played fantasy before & would be interested in doing this but that weekend is no good for me & earlier than that is even worse. go on w/out me

k3v you can just autodraft

yeah, rank the players when you have a free hour or so and just let it autodraft

or pop in for 20 mins and draft your first four or so guys and then drop out

this is gonna be pretty sweet having more IlH reg posters in the fantasy league this year, amped

I will try and get in on this as well.

I'll make the change to sat PM on the 17th

omg can u guys make a thread for yr horrible fantasy holocaust thx

that's a different fantasy league, u draft despots and whoever kills the most ppl wins a trophy

ayo i'm cool with this weekend or next but the league still says this sunday

need 2 b in draft b/c i need to DEFEND MY TITLE bam

I haven't changed it yet, I'm a busy man

i trust u m bison its yahoo i dont trust

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Spurs have decided to use the amnesty clause on contract of Richard Jefferson, league sources tell Y! Sports. He has 3 years, $30M left.
8 minutes ago

first guy amnestied!

how does the amnesty clause work? you get to cut ppl?

You get to cut them and have to pay them their full contract but it doesn't count against your salary cap. (or it counts less, or something)

and there's a bidding process for who can sign jefferson (i.e., he isn't a total free agent).

it doesn't count at all against cap or luxury tax iirc

The Spurs watch every penny. Small market, you know.

they're aggressively pursuing caron butler.

lol caron butler is not better than richard jefferson particularly

true, but apparently he's their target.

maybe they think jefferson has nothing left?

there was a big drop-off in r-jeff last year, caron butler we don't know cuz he was injured

I wld probably draft tough juice over jefferson right now tho

carons big drop off was like two years ago!

but maybe he plays more spurs type ball idk recall jefferson wasnt really a good fit as far as what they wanted him to do catch and shoot corner 3s etc

BREAKING NEWS: we aren't signing anybody.

not even kwame brown. it's sad we wanted kwame.

drop-off, or just moving to a team that wasn't the shittiest team in the league

we've gotten better!

drop-off, or just moving to a team that wasn't the shittiest team in the league

― The Love Song of L. Alfred Sotosyn (dayo), Wednesday, December 7, 2011 2:05 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

looking at them his numbers are p consistant over his half season in washington and the second half of the season in dallas the year he got traded so id say theres a good chance the decline is on him

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1705/caron-butler

+ Volume scorer who likes to take line-drive, midrange jump shots.

+ Good build and can score in traffic. Quick release. Doesn't see floor.

+ Good hands on defense but middling effort. Uninspired team defender.

I had felt Butler's volume shooting style was a deterrent to Dallas offensively because it subtracted touches from more efficient players; that Dallas replaced him after his injury with three players (Peja Stojakovic, J.J. Barea and DeShawn Stevenson) who shot far less but with a greater true shooting percentage dovetailed nicely with my theory.

Nonetheless, Dallas played extremely well for the 28 full games Butler was around. He averaged a point every two minutes and showed, at the very least, that his scoring could be an effective weapon on the right team. The rest of his sheet was largely empty, however. Butler had an unusually high turnover rate for a jump shooter and rarely set up teammates (he was 60th among small forwards in assist rate). His main feat was shooting 45.3 percent on long 2s -- a shot he took, on average, once every five minutes.

Butler's defensive reputation is poor, but it appeared he tried harder in Dallas than he did in Washington. His stats in a limited sample of games last season were very strong -- an opponent PER of 10.5, one of the highest ratings among small forwards by Synergy, and a 5.3 points per 100 possessions differential. Given his unimpressive results in Washington, that's likely just a small-sample outlier, but we should keep an open mind if the same data crops up again this season. That will be more difficult, alas, as Butler tries to recover from a serious knee injury. As a jump shooter, his offense might not suffer too much, but it might be increasingly difficult for a 31-year-old with a bad wheel to defend the position.

omg i finally got the hello this is ball photo

supposedly the clippers are after caron butler too.. not sure he's the SF they're looking for but they had a mediocrity parade take the position last year.. lookin at you gomes.