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but anthopolous knows his shit

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

clarkspencer clarkspencer
#Marlins make no comment after meeting with pujpls agent for 75 minutes

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

here's the full law

Blue Jays get value in Sergio Santos
December, 6, 2011
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With the deal that sends Chicago White Sox reliever Sergio Santos to Toronto for Blue Jays prospect Nestor Molina, the Jays trade maybe their sixth-best pitching prospect for a very effective short reliever (whom they had previously when he was still a position player). This should take Toronto out of the market for free-agent closers, most of whom end up overpaid thanks to the winner's curse and the short peaks of most relievers' careers. The White Sox, on the other hand, get an extreme control right-hander without much of a breaking ball who could be a dominant two-pitch reliever, but is probably a year away from seriously contributing in the majors.

Santos was a shortstop (and not a good one) as recently as 2008, but converted to the mound in 2009 and raced to the majors even though he was mostly just an arm-strength guy at the time he switched roles. He's much more than that now, getting ahead with a mid-90s fastball but putting hitters away with a hard, extremely late-breaking slider that looks like it drops off a cliff at the last second. Santos threw 174 sliders in two-strike counts this year, according to Bloomberg Sports, and 57 percent of them resulted in strikeouts. The White Sox didn't use him much in number of games or within the games he pitched, with 80 percent of his outings comprised of one inning or less, so between that and his time as a position player, he's about as lightly used a reliever as you'll find in the big leagues. As long as Santos is healthy, he'll provide excellent value to the Blue Jays either on the field or in a trade a year or so from now, when he's a more "proven" closer.

Molina, also a converted infielder, has outstanding control, walking 16 batters in 130 innings in 2011 across two levels, most of it in high Class A. He has a solid-average fastball at 90-92 with a plus splitter, a pitch that made him more effective against left-handed batters than right-handed by more than 100 points of OPS this year. His breaking ball is a work in progress, to say the least, and he doesn't offer much projection, so there's still an open question of whether he can remain a starter with a midrotation ceiling or a late-game reliever. He should have a significant role in the 'pen even if he ends up exclusively a fastball/splitter guy. Molina is a good prospect, probably the best now in a fallow White Sox system, but the return seems a little light for a major league reliever signed to a very affordable three-year deal.

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

I can see Miami drawing pretty well now that there will be percent chance of zero for rainouts. If I'd lived in S. Fla. the past few years I'd still never have gone to a Marlins game -- the thought of getting into a dunk tank doesn't appeal to me.

William (C), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

It breaks my heart that Albert Pujols, Heath Bell, and Jose Reyes will have to wear those uniforms.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol someone is squatting on jon heyman's old si account, or something

SI_JonHeyman:
hearing #Marlins boosted offer to pujols to 13 years.... they are obvs pushing hard... long and hard... [via Twitter]

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

mlb network baseball winter meetings™ coverage makes me want to puncture my eardrums

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

wheeeeeeee

RT @truebluela If Harang deal backloaded. Dodgers will pay Lilly/Harang/Capuano/Uribe/Ellis/Hairston/Guerrier ~$47.75m in 2013

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

JimBowdenESPNxmJIM BOWDEN

Mariners are now front=runners on Fielder with Milw,Cubs & Tor all wanting shorter term deals....stay tuned

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

SI_JonHeyman:
hearing #Marlins boosted offer to pujols to 13 years.... they are obvs pushing hard... long and hard... [via Twitter]

what the hell!!

William (C), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

that's a fake

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

heyman's new account is Jon_Heyman

i saw it in the yahoo tracker and freaked out slightly until i clicked on over

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

ok, whew -- I mean, I would love for that to be true, because I have my NL East hunt already, but

William (C), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

fielder to mariners has seemed like a foregone conclusion for like 2 years now

smh, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

?

sir thermo of thinwall, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

they have money to play with and their GM drafted prince while in MIL and lallygagged covets him

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

ah! thx.

sir thermo of thinwall, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

RT @truebluela If Harang deal backloaded. Dodgers will pay Lilly/Harang/Capuano/Uribe/Ellis/Hairston/Guerrier ~$47.75m in 2013

ned and frank dont give a fuck. the new ownership should fire ned's stupid ass for fucking them before they even get a chance to start.

mayor jingleberriez, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah its just they've got money and at this point could really use a guy like him to remind fans what a home run is or what a major league hitter is like

plus their gm is the brewers former scouting director etc etc

smh, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

cards are apparently furiously trying to unload lohse or westbrook. wonder what that could be about...

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

tryna free payroll for poo-holes or burly

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

feel like the solution would've been not giving jake westbrook 40m in the first place but \(o_O)/

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

the sox are apparently in on some japanese shortstop and are playing hardball with david ortiz--gave him a low 2-year offer that seems to be designed to get him to accept arbitration.

cad, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

Exec: white sox asking for 'ubaldo Jimenez package' for John Danks.

Uh

polyphonic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

they might be able to get a package from ubaldo jiminez

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

joecapMARLINS joe capozzi

Growing buzz in lobby that #Marlins will emerge as winner Albert Pujols derby. Nothing final yet but fish r favorites, accd 2 lobby walkers

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

"the ubaldo jimenez package" sounds like some black market plastic surgery you can get or something

cad, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

GordonEdes Gordon Edes
Red sox confirm they did not post on Japanese ss Nakajima

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

*wipes brow*

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Cardinals owner. Whoa. RT @jonmorosi: More DeWitt on Pujols: "We're realistic about the fact that it may not happen."

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

It seems damn peculiar that the Marlins are going to sign free agents at two positions they really already have pretty decent players.

Obviously they hope Hanley pouts but moves to third or perhaps the outfield, but where do they put Gaby Sanchez if for some reason this pyramid scheme actually does bring in Pujols?

earlnash, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

hanley ramirez is not a good shortstop

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

he's a good hitter who plays shortstop, but those are two different things

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

gaby's gonna get traded for pitching

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

Mets are apparently rebuilding the J's 2011 bullpen. godspeed.

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

Torres for Pagan, how thrilling. Still, prepare ye SF:

Pagan's low baseball IQ, including consistently missing cutoff men and throwing to the wrong base, often agitated Mets officials.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Tim McCarver, who has been a national analyst on television networks for three decades and simultaneously shined as part of broadcast teams with four big league clubs, was named on Wednesday the 2012 recipient of the Ford C. Frick Award.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

*WHAM with a sock of shit*

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Huston Street to SD

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Reyes’ contract

2012: 10
2013: 10
2014: 16
2015: 22
2016: 22
2017: 22
2018: 22/4 buyout

are players allowed to play shortstop in a wheelchair

mayor jingleberriez, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

now imagine what Pujols will look like.

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

the pirates have signed erik bedard!?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

are players allowed to play shortstop in a wheelchair

Jeter (TM)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Buerhle to #Marlins: 4 yrs, $58M. #MLB

lawl

mayor jingleberriez, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

up until two months ago i thought Buerhle was overrated!

so do the fish have no choice but to trade HanRam now?

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

are they going to be selling crack at the new park to pay for this?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

lawl again

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/818185/Pool1.gif.opt.gif

mayor jingleberriez, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

wtf is that?!

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

is that Chevy Chase?

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

marlins still looking in on wilson & prince

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Miami out of Pujols hunt... Angels and Cubs still in?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 December 2011 05:02 (twelve years ago) link


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