Anyway. I was really impressed with Henderson again. He played some lovely one touch passes. Beautiful driving run and shot in the first half, too. Really like him.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LEJn8ms7Rho/TcP9uMydXoI/AAAAAAAAAEM/E7UysYTQFPI/s400/copy_%25282%2529_of_spearing1.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/this-is-england/this-is-england_625x352.jpg
― James, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 08:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02075/suarez_2075991b.jpg
― lebateauivre, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
It means something different in Uruguay
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
He's seen middle-fingers pointed at him from the stands in Holland for too long to use that excuse tbh
― lebateauivre, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
Guy on the left doesn't seem too offended by it
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
Liverpool fans, what is your opinion of Suarez's current form and shocking chance conversion rate?
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
he's lost sharpness, imo- maybe needs a rest
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
He's playing well. The strike rate is puzzling. He does snatch at things occasionally and there's the odd shocker, but nothing worse than most strikers. I don't know why he isn't scoring more. I suspect it's just chance.
I do wonder about his strike partner though, it's got to weigh upon the choices he makes. There may also be an impact in his getting crowded out a bit more, defenders knowing he's the one to mark.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe there's something playing on his mind, something that wouldn't have played on his mind if he'd said it in Uruguay
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
Of all players to have scored three or more PL goals this season, Luis Suárez has the lowest shot conversion rate (7.7%)
Can't be just chance
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's not just chance, no
His finishing seems to be the poorest part of his game, he can hit a long shot and get into position but he's not lethal enough
I do think the lack of a partner is putting him under pressure tho, teams double up on him and nobody is using the space that creates - carroll isn't mobile, bellamy's on the wing, gerrard is injured, no other midfielder makes advanced runs with any frequency and kuyt hates the box
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
I thoughtfully omitted Opta's trademark one word summation there btw
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
Suarez has been banging them in for URgay recently - four in his last match? - so I don't think it's necessarily about his own lack of sharpness. But I think even last season Kuyt and Maxi were main beneficiaries of him causing havoc in the area. As he showed last night, Carroll isn't really up to it.
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
It looks like he's going to have difficulty getting any borderline penalty shouts too
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
carroll *could* be the partner, but it needs to be suarez feeding off the havoc he creates, not t'other way round- carroll was a lot better last night than he has been imo, but they weren't functioning as a pair at all. Needs time, tbf
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
could give carroll all 5 years of his contract and he won't amount to anything except a poor man's emile heskey
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
i disagree, it was houllier turned heskey into heskey, before that he was p much unstoppable at leicester
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
ie you still have to coach a big man, even if what they do seems simple
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
a poor man's emile heskey
That's gotta hurt
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
how long until we get to say lol buying in form strikers from holland
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
with regard to suarez? pretty long time i should think.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
Huh xp? Have you seen him, he's playing well.
Have you watched the game yet pandemic? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on Carroll in this performance specifically.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Can't tell if Carroll is doing things well or if we're just desperate to pounce on anything half decent and claim it's a sign he's gonna be bloody fantastic.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
he's excellent at fouling opposition defenders tbf
― Maybe Bartering Will Help (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
Ismael - Performance in general was alright, though a bit disjointed and lacking in control. Henderson is better than I thought him to be when we signed him.
Carroll was okay, bordering on almost good. But we have one CF who causes mayhem in the opposition half but isn't finishing well enough. Pairing him with a partner who supposedly causes mayhem in the opposition defence (but does so about 1 game in 5 as far as I can see) and who is a far far worse finisher than the guy who isn't finishing well enough is a road to nowhere.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
he could be awesome, i think he will be awesome again, being a 35m striker without a goid run of games in a pretty unsettled team may not be the necessary circs
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
some really easy games coming up for us so plenty of chances to get on the score sheet i'd imagine. ahem.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
some really easy games coming up for us
words you should never see in print
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't think henderson was great or anything last night, but would agree that he looks better centrally rather than out on the wing where his relative lack of pace is exposed.
Do lfc have pace for wide positions?
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Downing? There was that driving run at the Sunderland defence on the opening day, and that shot that Schwarzer tipped on to the post last night. Bellamy?
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
Not exactly Bale or Lennon types though I suppose.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
Krasic is on the outs at Juve
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
y'all can have arsh
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
krasic should be on the outs at Juve, he's been terrible for nigh on 12 months.
richard scudamore came into the shop today. I refrained from telling him where to stick his 39th game.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
so chelsea tonight eh? Last minute equaliser by valencia to knock them out and drogba protesting in his flip flops is what I'm looking forward to.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
nah, Drogba doesn't give a toss anymore. Probably none of em do
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Feel like not making the next round might make Nando snap. He'd be the one I'd look out for anyway. He's been so passive, somethings got to be boiling underneath there.
I am a nerd and r gonna watch our kids. Mainly because I like Frimpong and am interested to see who plays back-up RB. Yennaris? Coquelin? Eastmond? Some other DM out of position?
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
so, the better to be able to co-ordinate the 'trap out' campaign, me and three mates are organising a campervan sojourn to the euros.
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
SPIN-OFF POTENTIAL.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
can't be any worse than 'max and paddy'
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
is it feasible to travel around poland/ukraine by campervan and actually get from game to game?
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Ireland are only in Poland luckily enough
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
what about the q-final?
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
and it's like 300km between Gdansk and Poznan which are the two venues
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
oh that'll work then. Are the games likely to sell out? Wonder what the pricing is like and if the locals can afford it.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
they can in Poland but can't in Ukraine is the word
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty big country, Ukraine
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
Just don't mention that you contribute to message board that contains the The Official Prime Minister Of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko Picture Thread
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
and the QF featuring the runner-up of Group C is in Warsaw. As long as Ireland don't go and win the bloody thing it should work out nicely
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link