[ADMIN] Future hosting of ILX (Part 8080)

loll yes

i know this comes up a lot but ads for unregistered posters and posters i dont like would get help us pay for a more expensive server if we needed it

sb
xp

Given that the annual fund drive is always oversubscribed, do we really need to look into novel solutions?

Stet, you are awesome.

catching up now but thx stet you are a prince

Charge people $5 every time they change their display name.

Readmission fee after a ban

£51 fine for self-excelsioring

50¢ per otm charge

graduated lol tax

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Antichrist1.jpg

Tithes to be paid by all posters to The Church

that medieval church puggle ain't looking too happy

he can't afford to go on ye olde ILM

lol tax revolts of 2012

Am I the only person who thinks "sb" should be left behind?

^no

thanks 1,000,000 stet for all yr hard work

I'd like to poll that question, I'll admit. But I have 'mixed feeligns'.

In theory, if someone's just posting offensive crap or spam, 50 good and faithful ILXors should be able to point them out and the perp gets xored out.

At the moment, it's more a 'custard pie for not liking Animal Collective in the right way'.

Maybe a 'ban' should last all of an hour, in the spirit of "we love you but maybe you should go and chill out for a bit"

And so on. Don't mind me.

If someone's just posting offensive crap or spam, they'll get banned by the mods before even reaching 51.

I know, and there's the 'borderline' stuff, and there's the 'offensive to relatively few people', etc.

Do most SBs happen clumped together after someone has said something very not cool, or are they usually spread out because most people are low-level horrible rather than balls-out nasty? Because these two scenarios maybe require something different? Maybe?

it seems 'low-level'.

I've never sb'd anyone, but then again nobody's really been b-o-n to me.

I can think of a couple of scenarios where I could have been sb'd to heck (OK, one scenario), but because it didn't exist I was able to explain my side, and people were able to either agree/forgive/cope/whatever.

Is that so wrong?

I've never sb'd anyone

Same here. I hate the whole idea of it.

I think I've only ever done it to people threatening other people with an SB in a kind of twisted Karma way.

God i wish we had SB on sandbox

but maybe we shd debate it AGAIN given the huge number of inoffensive posters 51'd every week for being inoffensive

OK, parc the sarc, let's talk about it.

I'm guessing you've had your fair share of being sb'd to 51, right?

How many of those would you say you 'deserved', or 'helped' you?

hehehe i'm not who you think i am ;-)

thing is Mark, we have this debate every fortnight or so, a bunch of people don't like SB and will never participate in it, good for them. the system doesn't exist independently of moderation, it functions as a guide to mods. its biggest flaw is that on the odd occasion when a user has a bit of a meltdown an unseemly pile-on can take them to 51 quite quickly - as i understand it, mods will now try to step in and prevent this happening. the only other way to be 51'd is to piss off 51 separate posters enough to click the button within a limited time frame - under this system it's proven all but impossible to get 51'd, and peeps who have been have almost always been at least aware that part of their online persona is "controversial" to other posters. some people's ILX experience is spoiled by meanness and swears, some people's ILX experience is spoiled by dickwittery and not-quite-spamming. SB is a reasonable leveller of these differences of opinion.

I think that's a fair summary of the current thinking on SB. I love a clusterfuck as much as the next misanthrope, so by all means everybody who hates SB can keep telling us all about it. Don't think that's gonna make it go away, at the mo.

God i wish we had SB on sandbox

oh, and it's got nothing to do with hosting ILX so personally i'd prefer it had its own thread so we can address relevant issues relevantly.

i agree w/ you MarkG sb is tryrannical and cruel & should be outlawed

for one thing idk how we are all surviving without it on this here sandbox, julie you must be having an extremely hard time my apologies where o where is the sb button miss u boo

yeah, y'see i find it useful for when you've made a reasoned argument and then people just carry on as if you hadn't

lol @ ppl thinking you're actually LJ also lol @ this discussion AGAIN

we can never rest until the brutal shadow of the SB button has been lifted and people feel free to post their innermost thoughts again

Well, it's neither one thing nor the other.

Anyway, thanks for the reasoned defence of it. I still would like it gone, but then that's my opinion.
I dunno if it needs a full debate, just .

or we can go on as we seem to be managing to do right now in perfect harmony xp

You guys just think there's no SB on the sandbox. I found the secret button and am SBing you all repeatedly right now.

That's the wrong button, you've got us all signed up for the Sugababes audition!

http://derailingfordummies.com/

u r so mean! funny how such a bully would be in favor of a system designed to let ppl gang up on some1 & 'vote him off the island'

Mmm, interesting! Intense levels of sarcasm, but. (ref: that website)

Anyway, to get back on topic - I'd love to help out but donation drives always seem to come at a bad time for me: either I'm off-board and they finish before I get there or they turn up when I'm skint. It would be good if we could open donations year-round, but I seem to remember there were tax/legal issues with this, right?

The drives were always open very briefly, and closed when the target was reached. In my time here, i've only managed to contrib to one!

hooray for stet! hooray for more memory! otm'ing everyone who wants to be able to donate whenever.

also I hope that the ability to bump ancient threads doesn't get phased out in the interest of db performance, since that is like the most charming thing about ilx

^^^

yeah clearly u have to be able to bump, thats a given

In theory, if someone's just posting offensive crap or spam, 50 good and faithful ILXors should be able to point them out and the perp gets xored out.

otoh we had about 14 active users and no mods the morning Newgod arrived. sb failed us that morning. and all this "oh i've never banned anyone, i'm so special" bullshit is so fucking lame. spammers like newgod are in theory what it is there for and if i was the only fucking one pressing the button for 2 hours then ilx deserved to break.

anyway, post passive aggression, thx stet! i will try to contribute, even if it is a time of the year i have absolutely no £££

um, I wasn't saying I was "so special", I did caveat "nobody's upset me personally here"

fundraiser.