not in opta's "least pubic sideburns" figure
― HI IT'S RONAN, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/premier-leagues-best-keepers
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
remember when you used to go on about how overrated Van Der Sar was?
― Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah and then he fucked up royally in the CL final as a timely reminder for you all of me being correct.
― HI IT'S RONAN, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
not seen enough of de gea to be honest to pass judgement...
De Gea is settling in well. Now that the storm of lolz that initially greeted his every move has died down
― Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
did that happen to bebe?
― mizzell, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
That was exactly the outcome i was fearing. Ach, every team has the occasional result like that ... but when it happens to City it'll see their lead cut to 20 pts or something, whereas there Liverpool are in mid-table.
Yeah, was a clear red in retrospect.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
No, not a red. And i don't see the comparison mizzell
― Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
Was lucky not to break his leg imo, it was no Rodwell.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
tonight made a grim day induced by drinking all weekend even more grim. sometimes i think liverpool cosmically chose me.
― HI IT'S RONAN, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, i misread your post and, anyway, there's no real connection, i just like thinking about bebe
― mizzell, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
someone needs to i suppose
― Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
ffs liverpool can't rely on you to do anything
― Maybe Bartering Will Help (Julie Lagger), Monday, 5 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Except consistently delight, perhaps
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
Definitely a red card - gets more ugly every time I watch it. Dembele was lucky that he didn't get seriously injured.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
another charge for Suarez then...
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway. I was really impressed with Henderson again. He played some lovely one touch passes. Beautiful driving run and shot in the first half, too. Really like him.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LEJn8ms7Rho/TcP9uMydXoI/AAAAAAAAAEM/E7UysYTQFPI/s400/copy_%25282%2529_of_spearing1.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/this-is-england/this-is-england_625x352.jpg
― James, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 08:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02075/suarez_2075991b.jpg
― lebateauivre, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
It means something different in Uruguay
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
He's seen middle-fingers pointed at him from the stands in Holland for too long to use that excuse tbh
― lebateauivre, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link
Guy on the left doesn't seem too offended by it
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
Liverpool fans, what is your opinion of Suarez's current form and shocking chance conversion rate?
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
he's lost sharpness, imo- maybe needs a rest
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
He's playing well. The strike rate is puzzling. He does snatch at things occasionally and there's the odd shocker, but nothing worse than most strikers. I don't know why he isn't scoring more. I suspect it's just chance.
I do wonder about his strike partner though, it's got to weigh upon the choices he makes. There may also be an impact in his getting crowded out a bit more, defenders knowing he's the one to mark.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe there's something playing on his mind, something that wouldn't have played on his mind if he'd said it in Uruguay
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
Of all players to have scored three or more PL goals this season, Luis Suárez has the lowest shot conversion rate (7.7%)
Can't be just chance
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's not just chance, no
His finishing seems to be the poorest part of his game, he can hit a long shot and get into position but he's not lethal enough
I do think the lack of a partner is putting him under pressure tho, teams double up on him and nobody is using the space that creates - carroll isn't mobile, bellamy's on the wing, gerrard is injured, no other midfielder makes advanced runs with any frequency and kuyt hates the box
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
I thoughtfully omitted Opta's trademark one word summation there btw
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
Suarez has been banging them in for URgay recently - four in his last match? - so I don't think it's necessarily about his own lack of sharpness. But I think even last season Kuyt and Maxi were main beneficiaries of him causing havoc in the area. As he showed last night, Carroll isn't really up to it.
― Stevie T, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
It looks like he's going to have difficulty getting any borderline penalty shouts too
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
carroll *could* be the partner, but it needs to be suarez feeding off the havoc he creates, not t'other way round- carroll was a lot better last night than he has been imo, but they weren't functioning as a pair at all. Needs time, tbf
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
could give carroll all 5 years of his contract and he won't amount to anything except a poor man's emile heskey
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
i disagree, it was houllier turned heskey into heskey, before that he was p much unstoppable at leicester
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
ie you still have to coach a big man, even if what they do seems simple
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
a poor man's emile heskey
That's gotta hurt
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
how long until we get to say lol buying in form strikers from holland
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
with regard to suarez? pretty long time i should think.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
Huh xp? Have you seen him, he's playing well.
Have you watched the game yet pandemic? Would be interested to hear your thoughts on Carroll in this performance specifically.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Can't tell if Carroll is doing things well or if we're just desperate to pounce on anything half decent and claim it's a sign he's gonna be bloody fantastic.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
he's excellent at fouling opposition defenders tbf
― Maybe Bartering Will Help (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
Ismael - Performance in general was alright, though a bit disjointed and lacking in control. Henderson is better than I thought him to be when we signed him.
Carroll was okay, bordering on almost good. But we have one CF who causes mayhem in the opposition half but isn't finishing well enough. Pairing him with a partner who supposedly causes mayhem in the opposition defence (but does so about 1 game in 5 as far as I can see) and who is a far far worse finisher than the guy who isn't finishing well enough is a road to nowhere.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
he could be awesome, i think he will be awesome again, being a 35m striker without a goid run of games in a pretty unsettled team may not be the necessary circs
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
some really easy games coming up for us so plenty of chances to get on the score sheet i'd imagine. ahem.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
some really easy games coming up for us
words you should never see in print
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't think henderson was great or anything last night, but would agree that he looks better centrally rather than out on the wing where his relative lack of pace is exposed.
Do lfc have pace for wide positions?
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
Downing? There was that driving run at the Sunderland defence on the opening day, and that shot that Schwarzer tipped on to the post last night. Bellamy?
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
Not exactly Bale or Lennon types though I suppose.
― Chris, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
Krasic is on the outs at Juve
― Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link