probably my favorite rap album 2011

like, i don't know what else to tell you; the framework of the chart serves certain artists a lot more than it does others.

if moving on with your life after SPIN magazine put out a rap music infographic, is considered being the reasonable center, then i guess i am that, yes

question asked, question answered

― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:51 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

shouldnt you be trying the "LOL DEEJ LIKES [ANY ARTIST DEEJ HAS EVER MENTIONED]" punchline for the 8043rd time?

if moving on with your life after SPIN magazine put out a rap music infographic, is considered being the reasonable center, then i guess i am that, yes

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:52 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

you need to make up your mind if you actually disagree w/ what i've said about the chart, or if you've actually moved on, because you talking about it now suggests you're just trying to one up me & arent actually engaged w/ the discussion at hand

oh i forgot about ilx's drake fanbase

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

idk man... holding up killa kyleon as some pinnacle of 2011 rap is... very weird, but do you

i'm not even the one who brought this stupid thing up again -- yall were -- if you want to keep bringing it up like its assumed that we all agree about the chart, then be prepared to actually engage my opinion about it

i can't believe i get to explain to lex AND deej in the same weekend that you don't get to decide when other people think you're funny

― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

??? who said i was trying to be funny? what are you talking abt?

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

i said you were being unintentionally hilarious, kev said i was right and you said i was wrong so very wrong. that's not your call to make.

man, "deej vs the rest of ILX" is so April of 2011...

once again, you've mistaken ppl joking about something w/ a desire to once again engage you on something that we've all already talked about at length

no this is deej vs. the rest of the sandbox, whole new deal

killa kyleon put out better music this year than anyone on the left side of that chart fwiw

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:40 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark

uh

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:42 PM (5 minutes ago)

oh i forgot about ilx's drake fanbase

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:48 PM (3 minutes ago)

on the real tho jsut for the record who on that chart is getting the goon seal of approval, looking at it right now - yela? kanye? big sean? wale? asap rocky?

ok i skipped over meek

xp i'm not holding him up as anything i'm saying 'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart

your line here is that omg its just a dumb spin chart, that's what i'm saying you're wrong about -- everything you've ever written is just dumb music writing too, if you want to go by that logic. this serves to create a narrative about THE STATE OF RAP and if you don't see that then maybe you shouldnt write about music

once again, you've mistaken ppl joking about something w/ a desire to once again engage you on something that we've all already talked about at length

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

once again you act as if you have absolutely no responsibility for getting into arguments you are in fact a part of

"i'll joke about this as if deej is a moron who was totally wrong about this, then i'll expect him to have moved on and ignore me when i intentionally provoke him"

wait a minute al i otm'ed deej not you itt

once again you act as if you have absolutely no responsibility for getting into arguments you are in fact a part of

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:57 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

i'm not trying to absolve responsibility from telling you that you should chill out over the SPIN music chart, & don't act like me and "smh mang fusion" cracking a joke about "regional thug" was an attempt to have a discussion about the SPIN chart

deej and the spin chart is like a 10 year old waiting for someone to say "pokemon"

but ... thats a quote from the spin chart.

xp

"i'll joke about this as if deej is a moron who was totally wrong about this, then i'll expect him to have moved on and ignore me when i intentionally provoke him"

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

oh my lord man -- me saying that "rolling regional thug 2012" should be the name of the next thread title (and it should!) was not provoking you, jeez -- you seem pretty cool with "busting balls" until it is your balls that are being busted

i don't know how squirtle can beat charizard

deej for better or worse "regional thug" is gonna be a punchline/easy zing for the forseeable future. you just gotta roll with these things sometimes

i mean, and then you throw jigglypuff in the mix? that was a crazy episode, right?

you guys argue with me about the content and beneath-the-surface assumptions going into the chart, and then accuse me of just being mad about some dumb old chart no one read when i disagree with them. those underlying assumptions are a huge part of what is wrong w/ the critical apparatus about rap more broadly.

I for one am glad we found another mostly meaningless phrase to join "hipster" on the list to things that set deej off like a roman candle

deej for better or worse "regional thug" is gonna be a punchline/easy zing for the forseeable future. you just gotta roll with these things sometimes

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

regional thug is something i brought attention to! thats not a zing of me!

beneath-the-surface assumptions

it really was wildly beneath the surface how they chose to write SPIN on the cover that month instead of MURDER DOG

'candy paint and texas plates' was a better mixtape than 95% of the organized output of (admittedly) more relevant rappers on that retarded chart

― k3vin k., Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

musicians from 11 that i enjoyed more than killa kyleon: soulja boy, e-40, max b, freddie gibbs, 2 chainz, meek mill, travis porter, kendrick lamar, drake, waka flocka flame -- not that i dislike killa kyleon, but

all of those guys are on the left side of the chart, obv

I for one am glad we found another mostly meaningless phrase to join "hipster" on the list to things that set deej off like a roman candle

― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

when has 'hipster' ever been a word that 'sets me off like a roman candle' -- arent you talking about yourself?

i didn't even throw boosie on there, breh

anyway, stevenson dude otm

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

no, stevenson dude off tm

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

sorry kev i was thinking of this exchange and misremembered j0rdan as you

in other news, I heard Roscoe Dash still suxx can any1 confirm

it really was wildly beneath the surface how they chose to write SPIN on the cover that month instead of MURDER DOG

― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

every article & piece has 'beneath the surface' assumptions dumbass this isnt a conspiracy theory thing, i'm talking about the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever

you guys argue with me about the content and beneath-the-surface assumptions going into the chart, and then accuse me of just being mad about some dumb old chart no one read when i disagree with them. those underlying assumptions are a huge part of what is wrong w/ the critical apparatus about rap more broadly.

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

i think this could be read as you taking the SPIN rap chart more seriously than anyone else here, so at some point ppl just stop arguing about it

the shared assumptions that go into every single piece of writing by a magazine ever

and the platform to finally untangle this is "the snarky infographic"

regional thug is something i brought attention to! thats not a zing of me!

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

it can become a zing of you when you routinely throw the phrase around all the time like SPIN used a racial epithet

yeah man i'm happy to play your hypeman but i aint wearing no chains xp al

and the platform to finally untangle this is "the snarky infographic"

― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:06 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators

it can become a zing of you when you routinely throw the phrase around all the time like SPIN used a racial epithet

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:07 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

is it particularly different from when people used to call allen iverson a 'thug'

other than that obv some of the artists (not all) in that bubble would call themselves that

a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses

a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses

― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

i said 'baldly lays out the presumptions' which is not at all the same as 'reflected the opinions of' learn to read

my problems w/ this isn't that its like some kind of conspiracy, i said this already

sorry, your posts are so free of the shared assumptions that your writing is so free from that it reads like esperanto to me

in other news, I heard Roscoe Dash still suxx can any1 confirm

― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

"good fucking night" has me reconsidering my kneejerk dislike of both roscoe and kane beatz tbh

is it particularly different from when people used to call allen iverson a 'thug'

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes, you weirdo

a piece of writing reflected the opinions of the person who wrote it, stop the presses

― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:08 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

are you really having trouble understanding this sentence, because it is in english:

"it is the one that most baldly lays out the presumptions of its creators"

is that on a tape? (last thing I heard of his was a few tracks on Dash Effect) xxpost

also by "esperanto," i meant "the fat purple crayon scrawlings of a drooling 8 year old"