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if the heat could get oden that would be.... very interesting

dude was one of the best players in the nba outright when he was healthy two years ago

granted it was like 20 games but his PER was sick

his per was good but he was also fouling out in like 20mins, obvs he could be amazing but you know lol

yeah -- i think the heat would have the ability to control his minutes a bit more (would help w/ fouling AND health) because they basically played w/o a center all of last year anyway

it prob doesn't make sense for them to get him tho cuz they need another shooter PLUS a big man that they can actually rely on. dalembert or, shit, kwame makes more sense than oden, i think. idk i'm not totally clear on how things are working now but i don't think the heat could get a battier/tayshaun type + oden + another big, and they would need insurance on oden, so

i wouldn't worry much about it. oden (understandably; admirably) has loyalty to portland for sticking with him through his injuries, and portland appears willing to match any offer the heat could make. and, of course, even if he did go to miami, there's his perpetually high risk of injury.

the heat could sign battier and brown, and that's what will likely happen.

kwame could be worse... he's a big, mobile body at least. and that's an upgrade on everyone else they were trotting out last year aside from joel

lol kwame will have a v long career of teams talking themselves into him

o jeez, kept reading "Odom" for "Oden" and being all sorts of confused. lol forgot about that guy.

as i understand it, brown's basically a poor-man's samuel dalembert.

sp that's poverty-level, btw.

obvs just trade bron for howard, this is not hard to figure out people

oh, hi ice c?rm.

wise proposal imo

xp

ha duh how did i not figure that out already

lol kwame will have a v long career of teams talking themselves into him

― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

otm, is anybody gonna want kwame after what kobe said about him

also in v impt spurs news, we are apparently talking to Caron butler which to me says "we want to amnesty the shit out of Richard Jefferson but only if we can find a suitable replacement"

uh, we don't "want" kwame, but we'll take him, i guess.

oh ok that's who it is--i was thrown because you started a music thread

was the thread titled, "songs to play when miami trades bron for howard"?

srsly i know i keep saying this but howard/wade/bosh is an instant championship, they keep basically the same talent level as w/bron while turning a structurally unsound team into a perfectly balanced one - its a no brainer!

oh ok that's who it is--i was thrown because you started a music thread

― cad, Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

haha

plus u cld talk Orlando into giving you jameer or something else bc u know U R GIVING THEM LEBRON

its a win win for both teams and NEEDS TO HAPPEN

why not bosh for howard?

it isn't equal value, but neither is the guy with no-knees from the lakers, and that's the current no. 1 proposal.

oh, yeah, also orlando could trade howard for that center guy on the nets.

orlando will get v good offers for howard if hes on the market

bosh, bynum etc are not gonna get it done

but he is on the market! he's made clear he's leaving.

i think i heard a CP3 for howard rumor, but that makes no sense, since CP3 is trying to dictate his new team, too.

hes not carmelo, were talking a perennial mvp candiate at the harest position to fill

but he is on the market! he's made clear he's leaving.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:22 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

yeah sure but theres still tons of time is the thing

it's not a perfect analogy to carmello, but there are some parallels suggesting a team can't just bide its time and expect maximum value.

CP3, howard, melo plz

the cp3 sweepstakes is kind lol but mostly sad because his days as an elite player are v numbered

so i guess what you're saying is that the joel anthony-for-dwight howard rumor i heard isn't a realistic deal.

too bad.

it's not a perfect analogy to carmello, but there are some parallels suggesting a team can't just bide its time and expect maximum value.

― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, December 4, 2011 1:24 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

well they wont get value unless they get bron, but theyll be able to get a sweet gift basket of young players/draft picks/lesser allstars - when howard moves unless its for bron itll totally be in like a seven team trade just to get all the pieces lined up

but there will still have to be a major centerpiece. "young players/draft picks/lesser allstars" is hard to sell to your crushed fan-base. and who would that centerpice be? if it's andrew bynum, he's a nice player but that's thin gruel.

yeah i mean theyll totally get hosed, theres no way to move someone that good and not, unless youre getting back like one of the three other guys who are as good, but that never seems to happen - seems like the lakers dont really have the pieces to make it happen unless... they shipped kobe too !!!

now that would be interesting

I would be very very happy to see bynum get traded from the lakers

lol kobe's got the biggest contract in the league, how would you even begin to make an offer for him

idk and tbh im not sure what the deal w/the new cba is, also w/everyone getting an amnesty chip salary dumps arent gonna be as popular this year maybe making those multi team deals less likely

not sure if this is like a real thing or w/e

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Chandler to the Nets? Brook Lopez at the 4? Coached by Avery Johnson who played with Duncan and Robinson? I like it...
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I LIKE IT, TOO.

as long as it doesn't mean nene to the mavs, i mean.

feel like okc is coming out of the west this year