2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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LOLGOP Pete Nicely -- Republicans, I'm so scared of this super smart Newt guy. PLEASE DON'T NOMINATE HIM.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

Romney's one less than semi-pro interview last week

now two, btw, if you combine interview and debate performances.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

continuing evidence of mitt's meltdown.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

Daniel, an honest question: why do you want Obama to win? Why are you so invested in a weak primary challenge?

Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

sigh

iatee, Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

that deserves a good answer, which i'll try to give a little later. for now, i'll say that, if we have to have a GOP president, i much prefer romney to others in the GOP field, but that's weak praise.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah RAH RAH RAH GO MITT YES WE CAN

Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/i/2/romney-clown.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

@Shoq -- The quality of these debates has really plunged since Herman Cain left the race.

lol

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:47 (twelve years ago) link

Huh, I was basically assuming that everyone here apart from Morbius was Team Obama.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 4 December 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link

Tongues are deeply piercing cheeks here.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Huh, I was basically assuming that everyone here apart from Morbius was Team Obama.

You know the Groucho Marx line.

Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 December 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

"Once I shot a bunch of incompetent elephants in my pajamas."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 December 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I think it was something like "A spectre is haunting Europe"

JmC (step hen faps), Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

"Once I shot a bunch of incompetent elephants in my pajamas."

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

hahahaha

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 4 December 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

Prediction: whoever gets the GOP nomination will get, at the very least, 48% of the votes cast. Good luck, USA.

Aimless, Sunday, 4 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

the GOP nominee should get at least 48% of the vote. romney would. gingrich likely wouldn't. the other non-romneys likely wouldn't, either.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

A TOP CAIN ADVISER tells us the former candidate plans to endorse in the next few weeks – certainly this month, in order to affect the Iowa caucuses – and is most likely to go GINGRICH. They have a personal relationship that goes back to Gingrich’s days as Speaker, a much longer relationship than Cain has with any of the others. And they disagree on few issues. Cain can offer some Iowa organization and his power as a surrogate in the African-American community (including churches), a weakness for the GOP.

from politico

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

They have a personal relationship that goes back to Gingrich’s days as Speaker, a much longer relationship than Cain has with any of the others.

so uh, little mental math here, i'd say that's about a...13-year relationship

k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

In return for his endorsement, Cain demands Michael Steele's old job as chairman of the Republican Party. "I think I can bring more party discipline to the post than even Mr. Steele did," Cain said, jauntily pronouncing the word as: 'part-TAY'.

Aimless, Sunday, 4 December 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

A couple of the Sunday shows pointed out that Gingrich missed the filing deadline for Missouri. If you look at the schedule, I don't know if that means he missed the primary deadline (no delegates) or the caucus deadline (delegates), or if you can win the second without taking part in the first.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/

You're running for president, for pete's sake--get it together.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

amaturish. that's the kind of impression that can hurt gingrich.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Idea #3: get on the ballot.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Give Newt (Newt!) a break. As you may recall the man's entire campaign staff quit en masse last summer. Missouri just got lost in the sauce.

Aimless, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

For Pete's sake.

Aimless, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

It is mind boggling to me that Newt Gingrich is somehow shaking out as the front runner.

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

solid front-runner, at the moment. up by a big margin in iowa, and has 50% of the GOP support in florida. mind-boggling.

so it could go like this: gingrich takes iowa, romney takes NH, then someone takes south-carolina, which sets that someone up for the south . . .

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 December 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

if it's gingrich/romney then there's no way gingrich doesn't take SC, imo. i would imagine that's the part of the country most uncomfortable with mitt and newt's a southerner.

clay, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

i imagine it will prob go gingrich in iowa, romney in nh, gingrich in sc, then gingrich cleaning up with a few romney states here and there unless something major changes between here and the primaries.

furnace mane, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

One thing that will help Romney is that there's a lot more proportioning of delegates this year, which'll prevent Gingrich jumping out to too big a lead out of Iowa/NH/SC/Florida. I think they were worried about a Palin candidacy at the time the changes were made.

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

i imagine it will prob go gingrich in iowa, romney in nh, gingrich in sc, then gingrich cleaning up with a few romney states here and there unless something major changes between here and the primaries.

― furnace mane, Sunday, December 4, 2011

lol, first prediction of the GINGRICH JUGGERNAUT

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 December 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

Newt Gingrich's campaign really from here on out has to be like a zombie movie, you are just waiting for something undead to come out and attack. That guy is so crooked and has been wheeling and dealing for so long - any day something could come out and derail him. Then again, the guy also likes the sound of his own voice and could end up shooting himself in the head with his mouth.

I'd have to think that this year more than any other a viable middle of the road independent candidate could come in and try to split the difference and maybe pull it off. Question is there really any political figure with the cash and without their own problems to even give something like that a shot (probably not).

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Another worrisome sign for us riding the Newt wave. They had Tom Coburn on Meet the Press this morning, and he didn't duck when asked if he could support Gingrich for the nomination (I think the question was actually if he could support him for president, but it amounts to the same thing in the end): no.

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

lol. in some ways, that benefits gingrich (unless coburn is a tea-party favorite; i'm too bleary-eyed from a work project to remember).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 December 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

Possibly, I don't know. Here's the clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPkZwRFqxg

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

Fox, I mean. Coburn seems to have joined a Pearl Jam cover band.

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

I'd have to think that this year more than any other a viable middle of the road independent candidate could come in and try to split the difference and maybe pull it off. Question is there really any political figure with the cash and without their own problems to even give something like that a shot (probably not).

― earlnash, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:33 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

they're there, and they're just avoiding this election like the herpes outbreak it is.

furnace mane, Monday, 5 December 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

there there

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 December 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone posted about cain's pokemon speech

good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 5 December 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69700.html

Herman Cain quoted from Pokemon in a speech suspending his presidential campaign Saturday.

“I believe these words came from the Pokemon movie,” Cain said. “Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It’s never easy when there’s so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference. There’s a mission just for you and me.”

He continued: “Just look inside and you will find just what you can do.”

In previous speeches, Cain has attributed the quotation to “a poet.”

good webinar (ha ha I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 5 December 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

"they're there, and they're just avoiding this election like the herpes outbreak it is."

One thing in Cain's rise and fall that I think is kind of interesting is that in a way, just by riding the current media setup, he was able to become a household name in such a short period of time pretty much on his charisma. Forgetting what all he actually stood for, which was most likely just himself as to me it seems Cain obviously was just getting into this campaign hoping to raise his rep a bit to probably sell more books and get more speech appearances, I'd say by that measure it was entirely successful. Cain probably foolishly didn't realize if you have been playing grab ass in the office for the past 15 years and had a longtime mistress, it wouldn't come out, but he probably never figured he would have this much success to actually be vetted or have that level of scrutiny.

I'd think considering this phenomena and the fact that both political poles are so polarized with each side running even more polarizing candidates - it seems like a scenario where the odds of a third party middle candidate could have success.

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

was he really a household name? Only with those following primaries this early.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

No snark intended -- we overestimate the degree to which normal people follow this nonsense.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

I think so, Cain's more of a punchline at this point after all of the different allegations came out, but i think he got a pretty deep media saturation for someone who didn't really spend that much money to do so.

I think in the age of smartphones and all, people keep up a bit more with the daily headlines more than they did say a decade or so ago. I think it is more a superficial knowledge of events, but names and personalities get known. Cain was a reality level tv star.

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think he was a household name by the time he bailed; I don't think you would have had to be following very closely to have heard of him by that point.

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah herman cain was definitely very famous the last couple months

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

I always figure one indicator of fame is how much of a person's name you have to type into search before he/she jumps to the top of the list. If you type in "h-e," herman's at the top.

clemenza, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link


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