Right, this thread is for telling folk that the 'proper' ILX is down again, so if you see this above the "ILX is back up" thread it means ILX is back down

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SQL injection - C/D?

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Monday, 12 February 2007 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ jon having no idea who Starry is

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

will the new code finally ban mickey?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, who did jw ban?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

kate

― electric sound of jim (electric sound of jim), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh dear. That's not very funny. Not at all.

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

will the new code finally ban mickey?

seriously needs to

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

From this:

And banning someone from ile is not ok, but bullying several posters off of posting to threads you start and being a hateful lunatic is totally ok?

I'm guessing it was Kate. xpost

Yeah, because mickey's so much worse than any other annoying cnut round here

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ok. ban kenan too.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

It's all about opinions.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, because mickey's so much worse than any other annoying cnut round here

there are others as bad as him but none seem to have quite the same fondness for the word "faggot"

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha xpost to Gerry

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

true xpost.

― g000blar (g00blar), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

It's all about opinions.

"Opinions are like assholes..."

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

opinions are like belly buttons

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

it's all about the safety of your identities

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL (xpost)

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

mickey's "relationship" w/the RIAA lifts him above garden-variety internet assholism. he's an undercover narc, 100000X the threat to ILX that many ppl seem to think JW is.

― sgt joe friday (lovebug ), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

opinions are like the cellular composition of a body, they replace themselves completely every few years yet somehow remain almost exactly the same

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

All i can say is it's only slightly amusing that I had started a thread about the depressing state of BBC 'have your say' threads only for this to happen.

― ned trifle XIV (ned trifle XIV), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

or more accurately, a parole violator who will draw the heat here.

"stash the hash, man"

― sgt joe friday (lovebug ), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey's just a Jagger with EDGE.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just reading that BBC have your say thread, having not looked at ILX all weekend, when catastrophe did strike.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey's just a Jagger with EDGE. and men's clothes.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey Jagger?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey Borchardt: "Sinking a Music Pirate" (L.A. Times, April 3, 2006)
This simpering piece of garbage could have been written by an RIAA operative: a college student busted for illegal downloading details how the FBI dragged him into court while concluding that "stealing of any kind is wrong." Wonder if this essay was part of his plea bargain? If so, they should throw the book at him, though they probably won't since he's acted like such a good little tool.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Um how does one put up images again? (Sorry I should know this by now!)

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

but put it all a bit closer together

― acrobat (acrobat), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(img src="www.comedykitten.jpg")

but with pointy brackets instead of round ones.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks ailsa. How did you know I wanted it for kittens? :)

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

(the html checker frowns on pointy brackets unless you do them in html too, which is probably where acrobat's explanation went)

xpost - it's ILX, dude, what else would you want it for?

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

To write actual pointy brackets on the screen, incidentally, you write < for < and > for >

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye, see that's where I'd fall down, because I'd write that and it'd magically turn into pointy brackets, hence missing the point.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

so the few miserable cunts who dislike me can have a great argument for banning me?

FWIW jon (as if you care) I don't dislike you but the whole hacker ethics bewilders me. The problems you find are important but it seems the methods you use to highlight just create more headaches for people who are ultimately volunteers.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

On the bright side, I not only look ridiculous now, but people might remember me for my naivety. I guess I'm just throwing out halfway uninformed opinions after a few years of underposting and overlurking.

― mh (mike h.), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye, see that's where I'd fall down, because I'd write that and it'd
magically turn into pointy brackets, hence missing the point.

If you want to write &lt, write &lt; - and if you want to write &lt; write &amp;lt;... oh the hilarity.

― ledge (ledge), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - it's ILX, dude, what else would you want it for?

OTM. Have done my work on the other thread. I'll stop now for fear of the madness that might be unleashed!

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, the point is that Starry Sarah is totally noize.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

</life>

― Ste (fuzzy), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that I trust Jon enough to not fuck with things.
have i woken up in a parallel universe or something?

Well, he could have, but did he? As far as I can see, he didn't reallty (except maybe ban Kate, but that's not really THAT harmful). Like Ms Misery, I don't get the hacker mentality/code/whatever, but I'm happy he did hack into the database and showed us it was fragile. So ok, maybe the admins knew, but I think it's stil (sort of) a good thing.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

(I just mean: cut him some slack.)

― nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

cap'n save-a-hax0r

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Nath, there is a fundamental difference between reviewing the code and reporting a problem and 'hacking into the database' and causing problems -- without telling anybody, and letting the mods discover what had happened after the fact. If that distinction isn't clear then I don't know what to say. I've had my own questions about these last couple of days but you have no idea about the level of anger these and previous instances have caused among the mods.

Pash, Stet and KeefW in particular are dedicated to providing -- as has been noted, on a strictly *volunteer* basis -- the best possible home for ILX at the present time. They coordinated the effort, they have shown a hell of a lot of energy and good judgment in general, and they do want make sure that ILX runs efficiently and securely. No offense but you might want to cut *THEM* slack first.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

As Matt says though, most of the time you don't register much with me, and I guess I don't register much with you either, but why is it that whenever you DO it's for things like this?
Because you only post on Chicago threads?

-- jw (jo...), February 11th, 2007.

Uh, that is not Chicago Sarah.

This thread is about QA, right?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, Jon hasn't done much (though random banning of people you don't like must raise some sort of ethical issues), but he's threatened enough, and fucked shit up in the past enough, that the mods thought it wasn't a risk worth taking.

As Ned says, a helpful person would send an email going "look, here is a loophole I have found, do you want to fix it" rather than fucking shit up for everyone else and claiming that somehow that was a better way of drawing said loophole to the attention of Keith, Stet and Pashmina, if he's really doing this for the collective good of ILX.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it was more the banning that was for the collective good; getting to point out a hole in the code is basically a fringe benefit.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost But hasn't Jon reported the errors numerous times to the mods? What exactly did he do wrong? He hacked into the database, but what did he do wrong there save (?) making himself a mod and banning Kate (which is a somewhat crap thing to do... I know). I mean, I'm not saying he should be applauded for what he did, but in some crazy ass way I can understand (from his snooty geek point of view wink wink). He should be spanked (heh!), I mean, told off for what he did, but it's not the end of the world/ILX.

I mean, everyone acts as though he's destroyed ILX. FFS, he just hacked into the database and banned/elected himself mod. That's quickly solved, no?

― nathalie (stevienixed), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

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