by proxy you're comparing the careers of robin williams and aziz ansari, which....
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
I get a little off-track, bear with me...
― Cunga, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
rereading this p4k article & wondering if maybe childish gambino doesn't lack self awareness per se but just isn't up to the minute on rap trends? i get the feeling that we're in a whineyesque bubble here, what was for the past two years a trickle of stereogum updates (Beyonce Ass Moved by Grizzly Bear Concert) has only really become a tide circa somewhere between mbdtf & take care. not sure how perceptible the trends ian cohen &c (myself incl) are distinctly aware of are on a macro/college campus level
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:17 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think that donald glover's awareness or unawareness of the growing intersection between rap and indie music has much to do w/ whether or not he succeeds in creating an outsider persona, unless you want to give him pity points for ignorance
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think the outsider persona is more palpable to other audiences, incl ones that share that ignorance. not that that isn't an audience who also share the horrible taste & sense of humour. but in the same way most people hearing Foster the People are unaware of indie dance pop trends of the past three years, probably fewer are aware that it's indie rock artist bon iver mumbling crap eight minutes into a kanye single, or know who lil b is aside from a guy who makes funny jokes about bitches wanting to have sex with him for improbable reasons. and i think the childish gambino persona is considerably more novel if you're not clued into these micro-narratives. not that you're not an asshole if you like this music--but it frames an argument about his Self Awareness around audience groups & the reviewer's nerd knowledge rather than the music itself
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
but Strongo man you're breaking my heart
lol sorry man. god knows i've put in my time trying to like it. and it's not as if you don't know i watch hella tv so this isn't some Hipster Shits on Something He's Never Seen from His Olympian Williamsburg HQ or some shit.
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
there's something about the rhythm of it that's off to me. i get the same vibe from parks and rec and happy endings and a lot of other current shows. the 30 rock rhythm on +8 or something.
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
relatedly/unrelatedly i fell really hard for the drake album while ilx was down
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
community has a fabulous rythm & density of jokes imo but i hate 30 rock and parks & rec
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
what, we don't like auto-tune the news around here
― reddening, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
parks and rec makes me strangely angry, like i get really resentful that there arent any jokes [lazy childish gambino zing]
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
parks and rec makes me strangely angry because it's the third iteration of the office and i think we've all had enough at this point
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
community is television for people who frame their Mensa membership cards but still eat boogers
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
dying
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
Shit like this makes my fucking skin crawl: "If there was any doubt that Community was one of the smartest half-hour comedies to ever air on network television, allow us to enter this into evidence...."
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/11/community-beetlejuice-easter-egg/
Might as well replace "Community" with "xkcd" and "comedies" with "web comics" if that's your definition of smart. Oh, sigh, why couldn't Buñuel muster such droll commentary when he did Le Charme Discret de la Bourgeoisie?
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
An endless string of meta-commentary and audience-aggrandizing patter was so **SMART** when it was called <i>Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back</i>. Get bent.
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
you know we have a community thread
― reddening, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
haha i prefer this guy to whiney
― iatee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
idg the using html tags thing
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
it's meta
― iatee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
And putting some imaginary line in the sand between this cutesy, hyper-pop-culturey, clever-qua-clever shitcom and the Twitter raps of Childish Gambino is like pretending Jackass didn't spawn the Steve-O rap album
― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
discreet charm of the bbcode
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
what about arrested development, do you have a rant about that
― iatee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
I hear there's a movie coming out
http://skreened.com/render-product/e/w/a/ewawenekyfqmmowxcaax/ham-squad.american-apparel-unisex-fitted-tee.white.w760h760.jpg
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
arrested development sucked/sucks shit too, but i dont need to make longwinded hipster refs to express that.
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
i have to say the buñuel reference convinced me its not whiney
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:17 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
well part of the problem is that he seems to have not been keeping up with rap trends for the past decade, or that because he is sooooo indie, he only has a handful of rap records and doesn't know what the shit his record should sound like in 2011.
― big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
nah come on the buñuel ref is classic whiney
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:04 (twelve years ago) link
"this seems highbrow enough to make my point, just hope no one actually calls me out on the specifics"
yeah theres fact that it doesnt make a tonne of sense in context but it seemed a v unwhiney ref idk
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
mostly i'm just lol'ing at the thou protestest too muchest from one of the four or five ilx posters with one of the most recognizable sentence-making styles of all-time.
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
buñuel more like poo-nuel
― wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
just occurred to me that a crispin glover would likely be as good a rapper as childish gambino, but danny glover would likely be better
/too old for this shit
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
btw, the last autotune the news skit was released in 2010; all the cool kids are dogpiling pompletune the mousse
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
forks just figured that i'd give you a heads up that i'm going to allow you to ridicule me for at least a year when the 9 minute riff raff sodmg youtube freestyle is on my 2011 p&j ballot
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link
s'all good famyou can take the kid off the blog but you can't take the blog out the kid
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
in many ways jordan, i like to think of myself as the jaz to your hovathe kool keith to your gambino as it were
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
smanging the replay button
lol is this the first youtube-comment-based meme on ilx?
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
i recognized Al in this thread instantly. it was pretty incredible. all for funny posts too
i have given up on the new display name thing because i feel so dense not being 100% sure who will smif or joey joe joe junior shabadoo is
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
i dont know will smif obv im d33j
― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
oh ok
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
lol cld tell deej from a mile off
― big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
deej was somewhat obvious but not whiney-level undeniable
― i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
idk have you heard "Auto Manipulator"?
― not uplifting (Abbott), Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mediafire.com/?n654nvvsps5w3rj
― not uplifting (Abbott), Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
NB It's not a good song
― not uplifting (Abbott), Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
Though I don't think it's trying to be.
― not uplifting (Abbott), Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link