Magazine/website/record store BEST OF 2011 end-of-year list pile-up

i don't normally read FACT mag., but i have liked their year-end lists. this one does feel different, especially the top 10. not yet sure why.

Z S otm, Prizewinning is such a good moment on that album--the drums!

i think i forgot to vote for death grips in the only thing i voted in this year u_u

Tbh FACT having five of my favorite albums of the year on their list made me feel a bit hip, but I might be a bit naïve if not oblivious as to the mechanics of tumblr buzz and other Internet-based realities

death grips bugs me because not liking their mixtape makes me feel old and uncool.

i tried listening to it about three times. each time i turned it off within about five minutes, and put on something like richard hawley instead.

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

whew. great.

i like shannon and the clams, tho! they're cool.

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

:((((

<q>the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement</q>

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

hahaha

i like that john maus album a lot. i've returned to it on spotify about 10 times, maybe, and i really like the song cop killer.

i hate korn.

the band, not the yellow vegetable.

also, i don't believe everything i read.

i know, for instance, that that whole "bat-boy" story from the weekly world news isn't true.

I mean, I really can only laugh when someone accuses me of being a sucker because I don't like Korn.

Like, yeah, that massive internet conspiracy to fool me into thinking John Maus is better than a terrible nu-metal band grafting shitty brostep over their songs got me. Thanks Altered Zones!

No, I totally understand not liking Korn. I don't understand liking John Maus.

i showed deathgrips to a friend who spent all of highschool trying to get me into k0rn and he loved it

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

The John Maus album is really just "okay", but even the worst track on their was miles ahead of the three Korn/Skrillex songs I heard.

rights for gays oh yeah

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

twitter is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people for how they shall think

are you whiney dw/it.gif? do you like cities aviv??

Death Grips release is waaaay too harsh sounding, I can listen to like 1 song every other week or so.

trying again with the death grips mixtape now.

i think it hear a 50s sample in one of the songs? the mixtape song is spread eagle, i think; sample is link wray, maybe.

why does everyone think i'm whiney

VERY good question

People actually like that Beastie Boys lp huh?

Beastie Boys LP is dope

well, that mixtape is better than i first thought. got to be in the right mood for it, tho.

feel like i need to listen to the captain and tenille now.

maybe there should be a death-grips/captain-and-tenille collaboration.

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

― v-shasty, Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:20 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol, isnt that how the bands name is spelled?

why does everyone think i'm whiney

well you have a similar posting style so i thought u might be

you can still tell me if you like cities aviv tho, im doing a survey

it's actually KoRn w/ a backwards R

cities aviv suck

i had always thought it was a backwards k... (xp)

i think it's supposed to be so that the K and R are facing each other

Korn (often stylized as KoЯn) is an American nu metal band from Bakersfield, California, formed in 1993.

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I...like the first two Korn albums OK, and I think the John Maus album is amazing...?

where do I stand in the freethinking olympics?

hustla, u and whiney should totally hang out sometime

my point was more that its not a list of 50 records that sits comfortably together in my eyes, and that the only real throughline is 'tumblr buzz'

EOY lists are not meant to have any sort of "throughline"!

seriously...y'all know how every EOY list is made? it really is as simple as just balloting writers. no publication can be bothered to rig or fix the results, or craft a list that "espouses" a "hivemind" or "worldview". and nor should they. when an EOY list is shit, the thing to criticise is the shit taste of its contributors.

i mean unless you're still hung up on p4k's bizarro hivemind-brand obsession but that is not how music crit should work.

Quite. John Maus and Cold Cave are obscenely high in The Quietus list. This is really irritating not only because I fucking loathe the John Maus album and mildly dislike the Cold Cave one but because that apparently some people will naturally presume that I'm just dropping those names to be hip and may not even have heard them.

I don't know about other sites but tQ takes up so much of my time I don't have that much time to worry about what other sites are doing. Most of my information on other digital publications comes from ILM or Twitter. It's hard to build up any kind of convincing picture of what other sites consider core.

There are some posters here who will choose their albums of the year with one eye on how this will present them and their taste in music which is a good thing in some ways but I'm not convinced that any significant number of music journo/editorial types have that level of sophistication (or time) to present themselves in such a manner.

There are (what I take to be) obviously a few 'cool lists' out there every year but I wouldn't have the confidence to state definitively which they are. After all, I know my two colleagues love the John Maus album as we've had blazing rows about it. This is certainly not an affectation on their part so how can I level this criticism at others... no matter how irritating I find it.

If I were trying to construct a list that would have people take me more seriously btw, I wouldn't be repping for Obake and Cornershop I'd be repping for Beyonce and DJ Quik... it would be a lot easier for me to do this but I think the former are awesome and the latter merely good. But again that's only based on reading ILM not what other sites have to say.

john maus was amazing long before the press decided to get on board, i think at least one or two other ilxors also had 'love is real' on their 2007 ballots.

i am deeply, sincerely concerned for ppl on this board who have lost perspective to the extent that a korn/skrillex collaboration is eoty material

I thought that was just a running joke.

I mean, you have to work on that assumption, otherwise you're looking at some serious Mayan end tymes shit going on right here. Or maybe there's more to this Insane Clown Posse remixed by Bently Rhythm Ace shit that I'm initially hearing.

kmt at music journalists devoting attention to korn/skrillex either for the lulz (smh) or out of popularity-chasing desperation

good tactic for an irrelevant band like korn to gain some column inchezzz though

of all the criticisms I level at acts, "irrelevant" definitely makes me feel warmest inside

you loathe the John Maus album, Doran? that's slightly disheartening (considering that the Quietus half-year list is how I first heard of it)

okay, here comes the big one....