Magazine/website/record store BEST OF 2011 end-of-year list pile-up

Well, I'm just using my parents as a stand-in for "reasonably well-informed people who aren't R&B fans."

I don't think "household name" implies recognition from 100% of the population, but it's got to be at least half. I think Lady Gaga and Beyonce have gotten to that point, but Ambrosius and Saadiq have not.

I think, from context, you can infer the scope in which "household name" is being used very easily and therefore there's no need to say "a person can only be a household name if ppl who don't give a shit about them know they exist"

Rise Record (UK) EOY 2011

http://www.rise-music.co.uk/browse.php?campaign=AOTW

50.Summer Camp : Welcome To Condale
49.The Decemberists : The King Is Dead
48.James Blake : James Blake
47.King Creosote & Jon Hopkins : Diamond Mine
46.Gang Gang Dance: Eye Contact
45.Bill Callahan : Apocalypse
44.Wild Beasts : Smother
43.Zun Zun Egui : Katang
42.Planningtorock : W
41.Mastodon : The Hunter
40. Little Roy : Battle For Seattle
39.Deerhoof : Vs. Evil
38.Blood Orange : Coastal Grooves
37.Dutch Uncles : Cadenza
36.Cat's Eyes : S/T
35.Cults : S/T
34.Hyetal : Broadcast
33.E.M.A : Past Life Martyred Saints
32.Battles : Gloss Drop
31.Anna Calvi : Anna Calvi
30.Lanterns on the Lake : Gracious Tide, Take Me Home
29.Girls : Father, Son, Holy Ghost
28.Wilco : The Whole Love
27.Tom WaitsBad As Me
26.The Field : Looping State of Mind
25.Other Lives : Tamer Animals
24.Ryan Adams : Ashes & Fire
23.Fair Oh's: Everything Is Dancing
22.Ghostpoet: Peanut Butter Blues & Meloncholy Jam
21.White Denim : D
20.Wye OakCivilian
19.St. Vincent : Strange Mercy
18. Real Estate : Days
17.Lykke Li : Wounded Rhymes
16.Veronica Falls : Veronica Falls
15.Nicolas Jaar: Space Is Only Noise
14. Braids : Native Speaker
13.Wooden : ShjipsWest
12.Balam Acab : Wander / Wonder
11.Metronomy : The English Riviera
10. Shabazz : Palaces Black Up
9. Little Dragon : Ritual Union
8. Antlers : Burst Apart
7. P.J Harvey : Let England Shake
6. Kurt Vile : Smoke Ring For My Halo
5. Josh T. Pearson : Last Of The Country Gentlemen
4. Jonathan Wilson : Gentle Spirit
3. Walls : Coracle
2. Tune-Yards : w h o k i l l
1. War On Drugs : Slave Ambient

altered zones best albums

http://alteredzones.com/posts/2163/2011-albums/

Ash Borer: Ash Borer [Pesanta Urfolk]
Blues Control & Laraaji: FRKWYS Vol. 8 [RVNG Intl.]
The Caretaker: An Empty Bliss Beyond This World [Self-Released]
Death Grips: Exmilitary [Self-Released]
Future Shuttle: Water's Edge [Holy Mountain]
Holy Other: With U [Tri-Angle]
Iceage: New Brigade [Escho]
John Maus: We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves [Ribbon]
Julia Holter: Tragedy [Leaving]
Julian Lynch: Terra [Underwater Peoples]
Jurgen Muller: Science of the Sea [Foxy Digitalis]
Laurel Halo: Hour Logic [Hippos In Tanks]
Liturgy: Aesthethica [Thrill Jockey]
Oneohtrix Point Never: Replica [Software]
Peaking Lights: 936 [Not Not Fun]
Pete Swanson: Man With Potential [Type]
Prince Rama: Trust Now [Paw Tracks]
Pure X: Pleasure [Acéphale]
Run DMT: Dreams [Culture Dealer]
Tim Hecker: Ravedeath, 1972 [Kranky]

08: JULIANNA BARWICK - THE MAGIC PLACE (ASTHMATIC KITTY)

heard this for the first time today, going through the FACT top 10, and the song "Prizewinning", near the end, absolutely floored me. i may be biased by the fact that i fell asleep with headphones and it woke me up out of an outstanding dream, but it's a beautiful song. the choral loops that characterize the album are complemented by a bit more rhythm than most of the other songs, via the repeating keyboard bass lines throughout and the addition of the snares that threaten to cave into themselves (nice subtle loopstation work) in the latter half of the song

i heard the song building up during my dream and honestly felt like i had finally died and there was a better place

haha, i kind of like the altered zones list.

some really good stuff in that list

z s you should give julia kent's new record a listen, i think youd really like it

the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement

Death Grips: Exmilitary [Self-Released]

also this is p incredible, def hi up on my own list

the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement

i think the statement is that korn sucks.

Julia Kent's Green and Grey? thanks lamp (you are a lamp, i think?), i'll check it out!

its certainly a FACT

xp

Julia Kent's Green and Grey? thanks lamp (you are a lamp, i think?), i'll check it out!

yeah thats the one although 'delay' has some good stuff on it too. (and yes, lol)

So what you're saying lamp is that the indie-ish stuff that the FACT list trumpets (John Maus/Peaking Lights/GGD) are all kinda safe-bet capitulations to consensus?

its more that theyre nods to... idk 'consensus' has the wrong connotations, it feels more like cool-hunting i guess, which is always a risky proposition. its like a list of things theyve heard of rather than listened to or s.thing

i dont even really have a problem with a mag basically listing what they think are the hippest records of the year, it certainly has more merit than the whole faux humble 'these are just some records we really liked, guys!' thing which feels disingenuous w/anything but a single person's list. its more that i think FACT lacks any kind of aesthetic or worldview when theyre talking abt these kind of albums & its just like 'oohh that labels cool, yeah, prurient!' i mean why is 'logic hour' better than 'antenna', yknow?

its like a list of things theyve heard of rather than listened to or s.thing

there's no way you can know that, tho. i mean, by its nature, "consensus" will push to the margins the more individual, idiosyncratic choices.

btw, the sample song on that rustie album -- fact's no. 2 of 2011 -- is . . . okay.

haha i wld bet real money that the FACT staff have actually listened to the records they voted for, my point was more that its not a list of 50 records that sits comfortably together in my eyes, and that the only real throughline is 'tumblr buzz' (sort of).

i don't normally read FACT mag., but i have liked their year-end lists. this one does feel different, especially the top 10. not yet sure why.

Z S otm, Prizewinning is such a good moment on that album--the drums!

i think i forgot to vote for death grips in the only thing i voted in this year u_u

Tbh FACT having five of my favorite albums of the year on their list made me feel a bit hip, but I might be a bit naïve if not oblivious as to the mechanics of tumblr buzz and other Internet-based realities

death grips bugs me because not liking their mixtape makes me feel old and uncool.

i tried listening to it about three times. each time i turned it off within about five minutes, and put on something like richard hawley instead.

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

whew. great.

i like shannon and the clams, tho! they're cool.

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

:((((

<q>the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement</q>

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

hahaha

i like that john maus album a lot. i've returned to it on spotify about 10 times, maybe, and i really like the song cop killer.

i hate korn.

the band, not the yellow vegetable.

also, i don't believe everything i read.

i know, for instance, that that whole "bat-boy" story from the weekly world news isn't true.

I mean, I really can only laugh when someone accuses me of being a sucker because I don't like Korn.

Like, yeah, that massive internet conspiracy to fool me into thinking John Maus is better than a terrible nu-metal band grafting shitty brostep over their songs got me. Thanks Altered Zones!

No, I totally understand not liking Korn. I don't understand liking John Maus.

i showed deathgrips to a friend who spent all of highschool trying to get me into k0rn and he loved it

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

The John Maus album is really just "okay", but even the worst track on their was miles ahead of the three Korn/Skrillex songs I heard.

rights for gays oh yeah

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

twitter is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people for how they shall think

are you whiney dw/it.gif? do you like cities aviv??

Death Grips release is waaaay too harsh sounding, I can listen to like 1 song every other week or so.

trying again with the death grips mixtape now.

i think it hear a 50s sample in one of the songs? the mixtape song is spread eagle, i think; sample is link wray, maybe.

why does everyone think i'm whiney

VERY good question

People actually like that Beastie Boys lp huh?

Beastie Boys LP is dope

well, that mixtape is better than i first thought. got to be in the right mood for it, tho.

feel like i need to listen to the captain and tenille now.

maybe there should be a death-grips/captain-and-tenille collaboration.

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

― v-shasty, Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:20 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol, isnt that how the bands name is spelled?

why does everyone think i'm whiney

well you have a similar posting style so i thought u might be

you can still tell me if you like cities aviv tho, im doing a survey

it's actually KoRn w/ a backwards R

cities aviv suck