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I was thinking about this and I think if ron paul were more rand paul-esque (ie crazy libertarian but still willing to toe the line when it mattered) he absolutely have a shot

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

he would absolutely*

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

for some reason many (most?) Republicans have a deep animosity for Ron Paul. I find it really strange. Maybe they just hate all his superfans?

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

as Cockburn sez: Trouble is, Paul really does have principles, starting with a refusal to endorse torture, assassinations, abuses to the Constitution, including endless wars.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

also he's too weaselly. GOP likes manly men.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

GOP's refusal to embrace ron paul:

  • he's too weaselly
  • he's too libertarian for their taste (which, when you think about it, suggests that there's limits to the extremism of the modern GOP, but perhaps has as much to do with what libertarianism means for paul's view of foreign policy and projection of american military power)
in other news, herman cain has an "announcement about his campaign" tomorrow.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

Not since the robber baron Henry Flagler blazed a path through Florida in the 19th century with his railroad has there been so triumphant a progress through the Sunshine state as Newt’s

We love hyperbole!

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

all the H's: hucksters, hyperbole, Heat, Hialeah.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know anyone north of Broward had heard of Hialeah.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hell, I had and I'm out here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard of it, but I'm a U.S. population geek.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I think with Paul too there's the whole young people/the internet/non-traditional conservatives love him and I think that's a sign that there must be something up with the guy and he won't "defend true conservatism" or whatever the fuck these people want the party daddy to do XP

clay, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

98% of Libertarianism is just privilege-protection in disguise, and the other 2% is bugfuck crazy, imo

William (C), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

greatest news of the week: DONALD TRUMP will moderate an upcoming GOP primary debate.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there's that too but I don't think this things wig out too many GOP caucus-goers. XP

clay, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

@michelleinbklyn Michelle Goldberg -- "I really think they feel I have a wonderful personality and they like me so much," says Trump of the GOP candidates. livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/2356

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ jaymc

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Good god they're setting themselves up from some The Apprentice like mockery.

As if they haven't already.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

also he's too weaselly. GOP likes manly men.

eh

hw and w were both pretty weaselly

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

"Santorum...you're fired"

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

^^ unintentionally hilarious

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

haaa

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

can one ill-conceived debate expose, for the nation, how much of a circus sideshow the GOP has become?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jon-huntsman-skip-presidential-debate-moderated-donald-trump-201000365.html

"We look forward to watching Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suck up to Trump with a big bowl of popcorn," Huntsman spokesman Tim Miller told Yahoo News.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

"has become"

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

haaaaa

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

oh, well, mr. trump, i do have lingering questions about whether "the president" is a natural-born u.s. citizen. he looks kenyan to me.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/davidfolkenflik/statuses/142704178077245440

OMG! It is a reality show! RT @DylanByers TRUMP: "I will be probably endorsing somebody right after the debates."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Responding to that, someone at HotAir:

He said “debates” — plural — not “debate,” so he’s not necessarily saying that the Newsmax event alone will decide his endorsement. But check the calendar. The Newsmax debate is the very last one before Iowa; by endorsing soon afterward, it’ll look as if the candidates’ performance at that event was determinative to him.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

hw and w were both pretty weaselly

W was a drunk, baseball playing, plane crashing redneck from Texas. and a born-again Xtian. all GOP rightwing male checkboxes checked.

nobody liked GHWB, he was coasting on Reagan's coattails and the fact that Dukakis was a liberal midget.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

I would lol of Trump endorsed Huntsman

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

I know about Hialeah bcz of the horsetrack, and I am always intentionally hialeahrious, you simp.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

i would lol if trump endorses newt and trashes romney as a weaselly flip-flopper.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

or maybe he'll find them all unsuitable and . . .

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4d90f3b1ccd1d54260570000/lewis-black-trump-2012.jpg

. . . oh that would be good.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

candidates vie for the trump bump

Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 2 December 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why but that gave me the mental image of Trump putting on his toupee over a Bump-It

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

Roffle:

Trump's idea 2 moderate a debate is absurd. I hope all GOP candidates turn him down. It's a campaign; not a TV show.

Ari Fleischer wondering why it can't be like the pure and untelevised campaigns of 2000, I guess.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

W was a drunk, baseball playing, plane crashing redneck from Texas. and a born-again Xtian. all GOP rightwing male checkboxes checked.

/ ivy league cheerleader and draft dodger. I'm sure Ron Paul could be sold as a 'real man' w/ the right media team. to start w/ he's actually from Texas. maybe he could put on some muscle,

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure Ron Paul could be sold as a 'real man' w/ the right media team. to start w/ he's actually from Texas. maybe he could put on some muscle

this can work for chris bosh, not ron paul.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

the GOP doesn't want someone who looks like the riddler. they want a daddy. a man. a man's man.

a man's man's man.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

CNN just had a Republican focus group holding court on Gingrich and Romney. Major surprise: they don't trust either one of them. This is good news for...Gary Johnson?

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

FOR RICKY SANTORUM

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

candidates vie for the trump bump

― Never translate German (schlump), Friday, December 2, 2011 4:20 PM (1 hour ago)

Lumps Stump for Trump Bump

William (C), Friday, 2 December 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

says Crump

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

:-D

William (C), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

My hope is they all turn down Trump and he uses that hour or however long to say, 'they dont care about telling the american public their principles; so i guess i am the only man here worth voting for' and throws his wighat back in the race as the last non-mittens.

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

George Will hates Gingrich, and thinks Romney would be Thomas Dewey to Obama's Truman. So he gets behind Rick Perry (admitting his wife is on the payroll) and--this is really odd--Huntsman.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romney-and-gingrich-from-bad-to-worse/2011/12/02/gIQArsM3LO_story.html

clemenza, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

Some people respond.

Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

The thing I find so odd about Will's endorsement of Huntsman has less to do with how conservative Huntsman may or may not be than seeing someone of Will's--I'll say visibility rather than stature so Alfred's head doesn't explode--so publically backing a lost cause.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 December 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link


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