Always thought that triplet thing was totally down to them being massive fans of Throwing Muses and Belly. They toured with Belly, as well, in that period, didn't they? They kept turning up with bands I really loved. And realising that Yorke ~wasn't any taller~ than Tanya Donnelly was a total headfuck because I have stood next to that woman and she comes up to my kneecap.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Come on, though. Blow Out. If you don't like the last big ramp-up at the end of Blow Out then I will lose my faith in your taste.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
basically my main reaction to Pablo Honey up through "Thinking About You" (aside from "Creep") is "I like this song better when Jeff Buckley does it"
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
okay "Anyone Can Play Guitar" is a good song, I don't know why I didn't notice this before
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Never liked Jeff Buckley. Fridge raiding bass thief.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
oh now I remember why I had issues with "Anyone Can Play Guitar", I hate the refrain
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
"And if London burns, I'll be standing on a beach with my guitar" is quite the clunker.
See, I've got up to Lucky and I am just thinking this is ugh overblown megalith guitar solo lighter waving prog lite nonsense on the chorus. Though I love the washes of wah + tremolo chords on the verses the rest of it is sub-Floydian rubbitch.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
pix of young thom yorke are the best http://www.thom-yorke.info/include/photos/Thom%20Yorke.jpg.jpe
― uhh (ok), Friday, 2 December 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
blimey, "Actual Size"!
― Ou est la showaddywaddy (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 2 December 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
He wuz wun sexay beest.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/13834735/Thom+Yorke+pablo+honey+era.png
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/3298507/Thom+Yorke+thom1988.jpg
Anyway, no, I'm not getting into a bad Thom Yorke hair fite.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I like overblown Floyd prog nonsense so that's not a problem for me.
"Vegetable" has an interesting structure idea but, just like "You", I'm not interested in anything else going on in the song.
I just feel like their songwriting jumped into another gear as of The Bends in terms of quality and consistency and pretty much stayed there through Hail To The Thief; after that point they still put out some great songs but the way they are organized into albums doesn't speak to me.
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey, "Prove Yourself" is kind of nice! I don't know that I ever made it this far into the album, lol
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
haha okay I definitely never made it this far into the album, I'm also enjoying "I Can't"
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Hail To The Thief is pretty much my favourite album but admittedly I'm in a minority of one on that opinion. It's the album where I skip the least tracks, that's all I can say. And I think the bloops and guitar prog are best balanced on that album.
See? Pablo Honey is not that bad towards the end of it. It gets steadily better, they just front-loaded it with punky grunge shite because they were the "next Nirvana" on account of Yorke's bleach habit.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
HTTT is my fave, too! Also someone else's but now I can't remember who... (it wasn't LJ, although I think he may be in the club as well, maybe Johnny Fever? I had this convo with someone recently, like within the last 6 weeks)
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, good!
Anyway I gotta go to class now. You'll probably just tell me Blow Out is shoegaze nonsense but that was the real moment I knew RH were for me.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
well fortunately I also love shoegaze nonsense in addition to proggy overblown Floyd so signs point to me liking the song
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
okay yes, I have never heard the last four songs on this album before because I would have had a much more positive overall impression of it if I had
"Blow Out" is GREAT
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Also a huge HTTT fan, tho I don't think we had a conversation about it Noes.
― iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
because I like ranking things, here's how I view the Radiohead albums:
HTTTKid AOK ComputerThe BendsAmnesiacThe King of LimbsIn Rainbows (I actually like individual songs on this more than TKOL but the album sequence is like a sleeping pill to me)Pablo Honey (although, as I discovered today, the end of this album is actually pretty great)
― OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
How Do You? is the one I remember soubding like A Little Respect played by Adorable
Pop Is Dead remains their only worthwhile moment
― PaulTMA, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
Not finding fuck-all that i can comment...but obligated to offer my inexhaustible gratitude for the Spike Jones 'Beetlebum'.
Where has that been all my wasted life?
― Finch and Chimps, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Young Thom Yorke kind of looks like David McCallum (especially as Ilia Kuryakin), but later Yorke looks like John Simms after someone's hit him with a plank.
― yes this is the real (snoball), Friday, 2 December 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
Also someone who lived in my neighbourhood while growing up looked like young Yorke, while his brother looked like Robbie Williams.
― yes this is the real (snoball), Friday, 2 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
Don't think he looks like either of those people (though I had to google McCallum) - but I definitely thought young Yorke looked like Tilda Swinton when she was playing men/gender neutral archangels.
And yeah, glad you agree, NOES, the second half of Pablo Honey completely picks up - and Blow Out (especially the end, when Greenwood Minor goes into carpal tunnel territory on the guitar) is just pure shoegaze bliss. In retrospect, it seems obvious from Blow Out that they were going to turn into what they turned into, but at the time it could have been the "big closing anthem" on any Thames Valley shoegaze band.
― Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, I definitely bet Penderecki WISHES he could write music as ~sophisticated~ and engaging as a Satie-plagiarizing, lifeless album that came out over a decade ago and that he then he wishes with all of his heart to release a string of anonymous failed acid revival EPs no one cares about.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
The whole Aphex in Poland thing was just a huge embarrassment squick. Way to miss the point of Penderecki's music by turning into shitty, formless noise.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
"He managed to make Aphex Twin BORING"
Also, it was the other way around. Penderecki didn't remix AT. AT remixed him and failed spectacularly at it.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
Radiohead themselves have almost universally terrible taste in music, to a man. I would never be the slightest bit interested in anyone they picked as support band.
When I saw them, I had Deerhoof and Beck at his most fun, least dick-Beck-y. So yay for picking the right time, I guess.
HTTT is also my favourite. Change a couple tracks w/ Let Down and Lucky and Knives Out and My Iron Lung and its basically all I need from teh 'HEAD.
― big popppa hoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
One day, Penderecki hopes to have the privilege of being considered a worthy peer to indubitable musical luminary Richard D. James.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Richard D. James invented glissandi.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha go wank over your Jonny Greenwood solo albums. Penderecki sucks big hairy moose cock as any fule kno.
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, and like I said, he hopes to be as sophisticated and unique as Richard D James.
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
ONE DAY HE WILL ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL OF COMPOSITIONAL PROWESS
― Turangalila, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
who the fuck is fothering thomas and when will sb return?
― dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
not reading this thread but my roommate was blasting radiohead the other day and i realized that i truly do hate them. i just can't stand thom yorke's singing, idk how ppl can listen to that for like, hundreds of hours, over the course of their lifetimes. just so... annoying.
― v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
I decided to turn the word “pretentious” into a compliment. The common assumption is that there are “real” people and there are others who are pretending to be something they’re not. There is also an assumption that there’s something morally wrong with pretending. My assumptions about culture as a place where you can take psychological risks without incurring physical penalties make me think that pretending is the most important thing we do. It’s the way we make our thought experiments, find out what it would be like to be otherwise.
Anyway, T. Yorke totally rates the Emika, so his taste still has merit.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
One day I hope to reach the jaded level of cynicism of a long term ILX0r on a Radiohead thread.
Yeah, dropping Emika in the midst of all that studious IDM was a pleasant surprise on the 6mix so Yorke does still occasionally display good taste.
Is that quote on pretention Thommy because is so, fair play, <3 to him for it. Though I reserve the right to laugh at his haircuts.
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
If so, that is.
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, that's Eno from Year with Swollen Appendices.
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Hahaha that's somehow even better because there was me thinking hmmm might go into wkiw territory with Yorke and much rather wkiw Eno.
That said I would totally rather wkiw In Rainbows/TKOL Yorke that sings about wife swapping and skinny dipping than OKC era singing bout the IMF and "the head of state has called for me by name" silliness.
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
Fotherington Thomas is someone who wants to add his strength to ours
― the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
i rarely pay much attention to lyrics - which song does he sing about wife swapping? "House of Cards"? (i don't want to be your friend, i just want to be your lover)
― Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
"throw your keys in the bowl, kiss your husband goodnight, forget about your house of cards and I'll deal mine"
Keys in the bowl is totally the code for suburban wife-swapping parties. (why do i kno this?)
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
"hullo TREES hullo clear LAKE!"
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah FT I liked the Ice Storm too
― the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
Never seen it?
Can you imagine going to a key party with Radiohead and pulling out Thom's? DAMMIT I wanted the tall one with the floppy hair that looks like Hugh Grant!
― Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
It was a clear blue morning when a J Spaceman fan felt the sudden moral authority to call something "pretentious"
― Turangalila, Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Dunno where you get the J. Spaceman thing but I am not and have never been a Jason fan so point yr zing somewhere else.
My problem with RH isn't really so much that they're pretentious (pompous, yes, po-faced sometimes) but that, according to Eno's lovely little descriprion, theyre not really pretentious *enough*. (except for when it comes to things like pretending they're not worth £30 million a piece when visiting OWS but whatevs)
― Fotherington Thomas, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
quite the paradox that In Rainbows seems to get lots of glowing reviews as their best album, and yet to me it marks the shift from them being 'the most fascinating and exciting band of the moment' to 'boring old status quo Radiohead. Nothing exemplary here!!!"
― the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link