Quick silly poll - Has 2011 been a good year for music?

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IDGI. OKC is like the worst Radiohead album?

I remember there being a lot of not great albums by bands I'd formerly appreciated, in 1997 and almost being ready to give up on music.

(Not including OKC, mind, which is still a good album even if it's nowhere near my fave. I'm thinking of frinstance LAGWAFIS and that last abomination by The Verve.)

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

1997 had "Blur" and "Brighten The Corners" too, both of which I liked well.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, aside from Homework, Homogenic and OK Computer, I don't even think about any of that shit anymore (and I rarely even think about Homogenic and OK Computer tbh).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, I liked _Blur_ and Dig Your Own Hole, too. But mostly, meh.

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

perfect from now on

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

smh

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

i think '96 and '98 were both way better for rap though?? drawing a blank here

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

The worst Radiohead album is still (and will always be) Pablo Honey IMO

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

I think maybe my distaste for OKC is down to the complete WTFness of "what has Thom Yorke done to his hair!?!??" during that period. YMMV.

The same can't be said of Spz, mind.

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

let's talk about 2011 again

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Pablo Honey is GREBT!!!! What choo talking bout, OH NOES?

Blow Out! Thinking About You! even CREPE has really aged quite sweetly. But I guess I just had a soft spot for them as a Ride wannabe shoegaze band. Sigh.

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

TKOL is their worst album. Pablo Honey wasn't perfect, but at least it didn't sound like a bunch of rejected OK Computer b-sides.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

is there like a music version of godwin's law where all threads end up as radiohead discussion

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

I never liked OKC.

So why did I dash out and buy KidA unheard on day 1? Probably because all the R fans hated it already, so figured it must be great. Was right.

Ou est la showaddywaddy (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry. KATY B! ST VINCENT! BARBARA PANTHER! EMIKA! PLANNINGTOROCK! ACTIVE CHILD! 2011 has been awesome!

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

as a staunch Rhead defender round these parts I actually like OKC more than I did when it came out, but I get annoyed when it becomes the default answer for 'album-of-the-decade' if only because 1) it is patchy as fuck, and 2) there are at least ten albums from 97 alone that stomp on it.

xp smh here's something http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516KBT7FJJL.jpg

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

I've struggled to find whole albums i really love but it has been a terrific year for singles.

ShariVari, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Hey you know I actually started a RH sandbox thread so we could have a place to talk about this stuff without irritating everyone in the world The Lex?

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

xp I used to think that until I heard the John Maus album. Weirdly enough now 2011 makes sense.

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

the lex is actually just a joint account used by everyone in the world

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

I liked the 3 albums I heard

lol singles

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Actually the last time I saw The Lex, he was quite drunk in a pub telling me that he didn't actually ~mind~ el Thommo's voice when he sung in his lower register, but swore me to silence about it, and we came up with a cunning plan to have Radiohead and Britney Spears switch remixers for their next release which would probably have AMAZING RESULTS.

I mean, can you imagine?

Codex (Junkie-XL super rave hands in the air remix)
vs
Hold It Against Me (Four Tet minimal gaze ecstacy reconstruction)

That would be the most awesome thing ever.

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

multiple xposts but:

I love "Creep" but I have never gotten into any of the other songs on that album. In fact, I was so turned off by the rest of that album that I intentionally avoided The Bends and all of its singles and didn't realize how great THAT album was until I was ambushed by "Paranoid Android" on MTV, got into OK Computer and then saw the video for "Just".

From this year, I really really dig Planningtorock, Beyonce, Rihanna (to my complete and total shock and surprise btw), M83, Lamb, PJ Harvey and Creep. (For obv reasons I am recusing myself from listing The Mountain Goats this year) Emika is great but since I only discovered her this week I am holding off on adding her to the list.

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

video for Just is def what got me into the Bends and Radiohead in general

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

2011 was as good a year for albums as any, in my opinion, although the singles didn't amaze me as much.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

I knew that actually, bcz you called 212 the single of the year

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

(j/k; I like that song, thx for bringing it to my attention)

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

all years are equally good

sisilafami, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

ha -- yeah. And even that one I couldn't give a perfect score.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

there is no such thing as time or quality

cutehound, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

i am voting classic for lack of a 'v good' option

cutehound, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

fuck is the 'suggest ban' option?

Julie Lagger, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

2011 has been an excellent year for music, as every year is

it has been a pretty bad year for critics' taste (as...every year is) (except, weirdly, 2009! i know elsewhere it was GAPDY year but i remember feeling so weird that i'd voted for every album in ilm's top 6)

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

voting Pretty Good Year though, b/c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hepGByXLboo

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

mission accomplished

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Diamond Mine, Bangs & Works 2, Katy B, EMA, When Saints Go Machine, Console, David Comes To Life, Nicolas Jaar, Tom Waits, Author, Ford & Lopatin, Oneohtrix, Rustie, Walls, Sully, St. Vincent, Death Grips, Zomby, John Maus, Battles, Austra, Panda Bear, Night Slugs and stuff, Gang Gang Dance, Ekoclef and quite a few others, all great-to-excellent things that came out this year, but more importantly most of these seem to be doing things a bit differently from before in one way or another.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting post about a study that tries to quantify the effect of music industry profit decline on music quality:

http://timharford.com/2011/11/music-for-love-not-money/

It tries to quantify the relative quality of music produced during different decades based on longevity on the radio and sales charts. In a period of relatively weak quality, you'd expect to see sales and radio play of current releases to decline relative to "oldies". Based on this study, the 2000s (post-Napster era) were no worse than the pre-Napster '90s.

o. nate, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

I just listened to Rustie for the first time earlier this morning and literally have no recollection of how it went and no desire to play it again. I just discovered Austra earlier this week and want to hear them again. I love one When Saints Go Machine song to death and am ambivalent towards the rest. Zomby, I dig. Battles was weak compared to Mirrored. Everything else on Dog Latin's list, I haven't heard and/or don't care about.

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

you don't like katy b?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

actually dan you would love the walls album i swear. its called coracle

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

[q="lex"]2011 has been an excellent year for music, as every year is

it has been a pretty bad year for critics' taste (as...every year is) [/q]

this

sisilafami, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Console came out at the very very end of last year, but I reckon it counts as this year. Been playing bits of it in the Outloud room and people have been digging it quite a lot.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't heard Katy B and am not knocking myself out to check her out.

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

walls is kind of in the same vein as the chemical brothers or underworld in case you were wondering

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

OH NOES is dan p?

i am fairly sure you would love katy b, dan

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

What I've heard of Walls (and admittedly I haven't checked out the whole album in its entirety) was more like Pantha Du Prince?

yeah OH NOES is dan p. People shouldn't hold back on at least checking oout Katy B.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

I am certain I would dig both more than this relisten of Pablo Honey I'm doing right now

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Katy B has been my late-year discovery.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

xpost is that the one with the extra disc? some gems on that.

dog latin, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

how good is an 'average' year for music?

є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

VERY GOOD

smh, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

probably going to rate this year as pretty good, cos although i haven't found anything that i was into as much as the emeralds and oneohtrix albums from last year, there have been too many excellent things around for me to remember even half of them - pinch & shackleton, julianna barwick, patten, nils frahm, roman flugel, andy stott...

one psych rock record that not enough people have been repping for: skull defekts with daniel higgs

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

otm, that Skull Defekts is great!

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

indie-rock-wise, wild beasts is probably my favourite thing

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't found that much to like from this year, but I've been happy to enjoy some music from unexpected directions: Boy Better Know, some Ill Blu (though I still haven't found a full mix that doesn't have too much annoying chatter on it), some other UK funky in general. I like Emeli Sande and look forward to her album next year. All kinds of current Latin music genres that interest me have been disappointing, to the extent that I've heard them.

There is maybe more fringe sort of stuff around right now that I am okay with than usual, but I'm not getting past just being okay with it. Something like Oneohtrix Point Never, which sounds like a continuation of several strands of music I listened to a lot in the 80s, is a good example.

Occidental Rudipherous, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Which genre has had the best year? Not really seen anyone saying its been a classic year for 'insert genre here' anywhere.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

pretty good year for psychedelic doom and this tops the lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfNHX5k9N-A

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 2 December 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Although I doubt the lex will like it

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 2 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

Which genre has had the best year?

GOP debates.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

^ this

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

if i saw this, i would have given the third-vote to "above average year."

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm on my phone: did you embed an Uncle Acid vid Jimmy R?

Bcz Windhand > Uncle Acid

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

i did

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

now do 1997 for comparison obv

Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Saturday, 3 December 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

oh! i missed the poll?

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 07:19 (twelve years ago) link

yes

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Why I think 2011 was a good year for music

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

“In the early '70s there were at least ten albums released every week that were fantastic. Now you're lucky to find ten albums a year of that quality. And there are more albums released each week now than there were then.” - Elton John, 2007

elton nailed it, end of the story

cock chirea, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

pity elton didnt name some of these weeks and list the albums out those weeks to back up his 'theory'

Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair, Drake wasn't around in the 70s

OH NOES, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

elton otm but i think he meant 1997 not 'the 70's'

delonge and winding refn (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

The variation of music that young people are listening to now… it's just the same beat with a different melody on top...I think it's getting a bit samey-samey… it needs a bit of a change-up again.” – Geir Hongro (ILM), 2011

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

i remember when rock was young

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

^^^hah!

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 December 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

darraghmac otm

suggest biffa (henrietta lacks), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link


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