2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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What the fuck, Newt, don't you know that being an ideas factory is not a legitimate function of government?

William (C), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

I'm in panic mode today. It occurs to me that I'm rooting for a guy who's...a tad undisciplined. (I think it's funny beyond words that Newt thinks that congress right now is a good operational match for an "idea-factory" president.)

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting post:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/newts-appeal.html

Suggests that part of Newt's appeal is his gift for highfalutin language and the snarky jab. Conservatives delight at the thought of Newt taking the professorial Obama down a peg.

o. nate, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

Newt's flameout is going to be spectacular

*MJpopcorn.gif*

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.

not with the base, i'll bet.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Indies decide elections, and in the general election Gingrich will collapse.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

in a general-election v. obama? oh, gingrich will be crushed.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.

You see, I think he's just so focussed on job creation and what's going to get America moving again, he sometimes gets ahead of himself.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

The ideas flow freely.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Gingrich: The New Bob Dole

Aimless, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

Indies decide elections, and in the general election Gingrich will collapse.

^^^

can't imagine a lot of women flocking to Newtie's campaign, for ex.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Now there's a guy who I bet is not a big Newt fan. (xpost)

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

You've got to check this awesome list:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/fundamentally-newt-gingrichs-favorite-word.html

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

ezraklein Ezra Klein -- Buy buy buy RT @DavMicRot: Steady downward trend for Romney finally pushes him below 50% yhoo.it/tM3wrZ

BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BYE BYE

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

For all my heartfelt Newt-love, this does say a lot: I wouldn't even consider putting down anything more than fifty on him.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'm fundamentally nervous every time he speaks.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

fundamentally out of touch with the reality of the real world

d/n plz

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm...

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

not going to hurt him.

look, i don't think newt gingrich will win the nomination. i still think romney will. but it's a slight feeling, and i wouldn't be surprised to see gincrich win. to me, it will be a function of two things: (a) does newt -- like the anti-romneys before him -- implode; and (b) will the other non-romneys drop out of the race in time for it to become a clean "romney v. non-romney" choice. if things fall into place, gingrich can win the nomination, and the timing for a non-romney to gain crucial momentum is better now than it has been in months (i.e., less time for newt to screw it up before he hits a key state -- south carolina -- where romney likely isn't that strong).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

“He can be a historic president,” Graham adds. “If he has matured as a person and is, for lack of a better word, calmed down, I think he could really motivate the country to do big things.”

lol

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

^^ That's pretty gentle, as NRO attacks go. The Tom Coburn quote, calling him a whipped dog who cowered before Clinton, is a nice touch.

Aimless, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

for Lindsay to be more insulting would be unladylike

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

haha, i like this description of rick perry by romney's chief campaign strategist in today's hilariously titled NYT mag article, Building a Better Mitt Romney-bot:

to Stevens, Rick Perry brings to mind the townies in the early scenes of “The Deer Hunter” who go loping into Vietnam expecting to kick butt

exactly

Z S, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

is the one on the right Greta in blackface

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

the one on the right is Greta in mustacheface

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

that hat looks stupid.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

I actually thought GVS was pretty good on CNN through the O.J. trial. That was the first I'd ever seen her; I don't get Fox News, so I've never seen her since. I take it she's typically awful.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

Most cable news personalities I know chiefly through their impressionists on SNL.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

I mainly know her from her episode of Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast

William (C), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

this is the definitive Greta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpvPizuq4-Y

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

god mitt romney at 46.7% is really, really tempting

I actually did pretty well on intrade last election. I remember it being a pain in the ass to get money on, like you have to send a check or something?

rick perry at 2.1% is also an okay gamble

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

yeah mitt is value. I wish I had money on there.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I was right the only way you can get money on from the US is by sending a check or a bank wire. fuck it.

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

I know u guyz love Alex Cockburn:

Not since the robber baron Henry Flagler blazed a path through Florida in the 19th century with his railroad has there been so triumphant a progress through the Sunshine state as Newt’s, fittingly so, since Florida is stuffed with hucksters. Newt a staggering 41 per cent, Romney 17, the sample being 600, questioned by the Florida Times Union....

Like another college lecturer, Barack Obama, Gingrich is a glib fellow. Unlike Perry, he’s got several answers to everything. He can take any side of a question. His past is disreputable in so many egregious ways that it is hard to see how the big Republican donors would want to invest substantial money in his campaign, except perhaps as insurance. His campaign organization is an utter mess. It’s surely a better than even bet that IEDs of scandal await detonation along his campaign trail.

But he’s not Mitt Romney. This year, that’s aooarently a game changer. If Newt goes down, the Republicans will be left with the next in line in the polls – namely Ron Paul. Trouble is, Paul really does have principles, starting with a refusal to endorse torture, assassinations, abuses to the Constitution, including endless wars. That puts him out of the picture.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/02/suddenly-it%E2%80%99s-newt/

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

feeling some actual schaudenfreude at the personal fallout of Cain's campaign tbh

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

dude thought he would just sell a lot of books/make a lot of $$$/get to be a celebrity instead he gets to be a laughingstock with a ruined marriage

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking about this and I think if ron paul were more rand paul-esque (ie crazy libertarian but still willing to toe the line when it mattered) he absolutely have a shot

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

he would absolutely*

iatee, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

for some reason many (most?) Republicans have a deep animosity for Ron Paul. I find it really strange. Maybe they just hate all his superfans?

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

as Cockburn sez: Trouble is, Paul really does have principles, starting with a refusal to endorse torture, assassinations, abuses to the Constitution, including endless wars.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

also he's too weaselly. GOP likes manly men.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

GOP's refusal to embrace ron paul:

  • he's too weaselly
  • he's too libertarian for their taste (which, when you think about it, suggests that there's limits to the extremism of the modern GOP, but perhaps has as much to do with what libertarianism means for paul's view of foreign policy and projection of american military power)
in other news, herman cain has an "announcement about his campaign" tomorrow.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

Not since the robber baron Henry Flagler blazed a path through Florida in the 19th century with his railroad has there been so triumphant a progress through the Sunshine state as Newt’s

We love hyperbole!

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

all the H's: hucksters, hyperbole, Heat, Hialeah.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know anyone north of Broward had heard of Hialeah.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hell, I had and I'm out here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard of it, but I'm a U.S. population geek.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I think with Paul too there's the whole young people/the internet/non-traditional conservatives love him and I think that's a sign that there must be something up with the guy and he won't "defend true conservatism" or whatever the fuck these people want the party daddy to do XP

clay, Friday, 2 December 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link


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