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TS: pitching woo v. spitting game

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, I hope it's better than Nicholson Baker's 50-page meditation on the word "lumber."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, but the drumming, and the recreational drug use, and the tallness, and the general awkwardness with women (don't want to give too many spoilers but there is an episode that hit sort of close to home...)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I was into prog. :( I haven't see F&G yet, though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I may have just seen that episode. Unless there's another one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I will watch it after I see all of Battlestar Galactica and then perhaps the Wire (girl that I am hanging with just had to watch a whole season of the Wire for class!!).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, it's better than just about anything. It was in Best American Essays of 2003, ed by Anne Fadiman who as far as I'm concerned is a manifestation of the divine on this earth. I have not, however, found a listing online yet.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Who's the author of the essay?

I think of all the F&G characters, I relate the most to Lindsay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Mostly because of my striking resemblance to Linda Cardellini.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was going to say, because you're always wearing that fatigue jacket.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, the essay is by Brian Doyle, and it's called "Yes".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of Battlestar Galactica...

Jeff and I have watched the first four episodes of season two and sent back another movie unwatched so we could get more MORE MORE BSG discs. I loved the pilot, was ready to give up on the show by the time the Tom Zarek episode rolled around, and then got all caught up in it again by the time we got to the season one finale.

There's some pretty lofty shit happening. I hope they can carry it through.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? I was never even close to giving up, somehow it got past all my critical faculties and I watched it as if there were no other options than the way things were done...like it was fact! I R SUCKER.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I had my first BSG experience the other night.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

QUICK JESSE MAKE THAT INTO A GAY THING!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I refuse to watch BATTLENERD GEEKLACTICA

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought I'd had my fill of space operas, but I think I'm hooked.

I never saw the original BSG, but I want to now that I see Dirk Benedict was in it! I love that dude. Tarantino should hipster him up in his next movie.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom Zarek's character needed a little refining, I thought. And I got sick of the pro-military rah rah totally uncritical of your superior officers crap. I'm still a little sick of that, actually, but...

I can't say anymore!

Oh, those handful of episodes that were dripping with dad issues were a little sickening, too. Basically, as soon as they started focusing on the CYLONS and all their attendant evil I was back into.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought I'd had my fill of space operas

hahahahahahaha

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

You are in no position to mock someone for their chosen brand of nerdery, mister.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

What's so funny? I mean, I ain't gonna lie, I've seen a lot of sci-fi tv shows.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

He's laughing because there's no such thing as "too many" space operas. It's an infinite genre and I say THANK GOODNESS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

See, here's the thing: a lot of my friends who were considered nerds in junior high school have openly embraced their nerdhood as adults. But whenever one of them says something like, "Isn't it funny how so many of us who graduated from K were total dorks growing up, and we still kind of are?" -- then I'm resistant. Because yeah, I was probably considered a nerd at one point -- but why? Because I got good grades and I wasn't good at sports? So what? I mean, sure, that gets you mocked when you're in 7th grade, but I don't know why that should define me as a nerd now. Or they say something like, "Well, you know, we read The New Yorker and listen to NPR" -- and I'm like, okay, well you have a pretty broad definition of "nerd." I plead guilty for wanting, at various points in my life, to be an intellectual/elitist/cultural snob, but I never read a fucking Piers Anthony paperback.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I'm laughing at the concept of there being so many space operas that one could conceivably have his fill of them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Or they say, "We're soooooo not cool enough to be in a rock band" and I'm like, "Well, that attitude is exactly why our band isn't cool."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Because yeah, I was probably considered a nerd at one point -- but why? Because I got good grades and I wasn't good at sports

something tells me that wasn't it. I'm not sure what it is, I'm having trouble putting my finger on it...

*cough*
skipped driver's ed on the day of a quiz not to go out and smoke pot behind the school or anything like that but to go to another section of my favorite English teacher's class instead.
*cough*

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ohh nooo, I was considered a nerd because I never took my nose out of the book, and the book was usually sci-fi. Also, apart from some rather more "cerebral" authors like Iain Banks and the PKD renaissance, run-of-the-genre science fiction & fantasy STILL comes in for mostly ridicule, as evidenced by John's last sentence above. I read a lot of Piers Anthony.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, oh John. I mean, it's not the part of my life that I'm most proud of, but there was Star Trek and TNG as a kid, a little DS9, Farscape and Babylon 5 with Maddie, etc. etc., and I enjoyed them all.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost) See, Otto, but that was about wanting to hang out with EJ Bronkema. When I used to stay after school and talk with her in the English office, it was about, I dunno, Woody Allen and Nabokov -- not Tolkien and Deep Space Nine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah...still not cool.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, I'm happy that you guys can enjoy that stuff, I just don't want any of it pinned on me. And my distaste for it means that I have total license to make fun of you for it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

WOODY ALLEN ISN'T COOL???

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Good thing, because Woody Allen is TOTALLY less pathetic than Tolkien.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

not Tolkien and Deep Space Nine

Dude give us a LITTLE credit here. Everynerd knows that's the worst Star Trek evolution ever.

xpost: Yeah, remember how you used to talk about Lost...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

or wait, was that Nick? Fuck.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Nerdy, intellectual, Jewish pedophile = really not that cool, yo

Everynerd knows that's the worst Star Trek evolution ever.

~~But better than Voyager and Enterprise~~

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, what about Lost? Lost is awesome. There are no spaceships or evil wizards in Lost.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Lost is totally geeky sci-fi that it's okay to like.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jewish intellectuals are very cool, in my book. Maybe not the neo-cons, but most of the others.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, you forgot "massively neurotic".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Re Woody Allen, not re "Lost"!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah. Anyway, obviously I've playing devil's advocate to some degree, but there's cool and then there's cool.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

wait wait wait... WOODY ALLEN?!?!?? prophetic.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

And compared to sex and drugs and rock n' roll, Woody Allen is not very cool. Neither are the Jews, really.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

(j/k about the Jews, uh, kinda)

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

What about Gene Simmons?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Eh, the Hasidim are usually cool. Their stories are K-CLASSIC, although the gender division in modern life leaves something to be desired.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

No way. I was specifically thinking that there are obv. cool Jews out there, but that the Hasidim are WAY LAME.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

But but but WHY?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, my own personal & fam issues to thread, but I basically hate interacting with them and "cool" is absolutely the last word that comes to mind.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

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