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"working people" vs "working FAMILIES" is a gulf of a difference.

ppl who use this kinda test-marketed jargon are the cynics, my dear.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama is having a big rally here on friday. Originally it was at a gym on campus, just down the street from my building. I was looking forward to skipping down there and basking in the spirit. (I attended a Clinton/Gore rally here on campus in 92 so also felt it would be good luck.)

But the demand for tickets was so high they've moved it a much, much larger venue on the banks of Town Lake. It would involve missing a half day of work to go down there and back so I don't think I can go. yay for him, boo for me.

Ms Misery (MsMisery), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"working people" vs "working FAMILIES" is a gulf of a difference

otm, we've already got most of the single people

nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

most of the single people ain't voting

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

that can't possibly be true

Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Single young people, particularly women, are more likely to vote than married young people. The turnout among single women age 18-24 led the way and increased by 12 percentage points, or about one third, since 2000.

http://www.civicyouth.org/quick/youth_voting.htm

Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

now strike "young"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah. that's crazy. it was 67% to 44% (married/non married) in the 2000 election.

Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

From reading his work, one gets the idea that Bob Somerby is getting closer and closer to losing it completely from sheer exasperation.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Unionbusting mayor of Minneapolis, sold out the Mississippi Freedom Democrats at '64 convention, no guts on Vietnam in '68... What a leader.

and what evidence do you have that humphrey was a "union-buster"? this is the 1st time that i've heard this accusation about him.

Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a HASTINGS shout-out in that Franken video.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

down in Arizona, there's a state bill that will fine up to $500 for a myriad of in-class activities, including:

Advocating “one side of a social, political, or cultural issue that is a matter of partisan controversy.”

even professional douchebag David Horowitz released a statement that thi s was going a bit far

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

this David Geffen-Obama-Hillary spat is hilarious but uh, bodes ill for the campaign. things are gonna get nasty for sure if this is any indication. although honestly I can't see Hillary running anything besides a very aggro campaign...

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a HASTINGS shout-out in that Franken video.

That's Dan Perry one step closer to the White House, then.

The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

so wait did no one else see/hear/read David Geffen calling Clinton "kind of a reckless guy" etc.?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that's right, no one else heard/saw/read that

nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

enh, whatever. 21 months of this shit left.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah can't say I'm lookin forward to it

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheney douchebaggery continues unabated:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_iraq

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still waiting for the call of damnation down on Sprint, and their castigation on the rightwing shows 24/7. Maybe it just takes the news a bit to get out.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(Gameboy?)

nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he meant Gameboy Advance, which just had Final Fantasy VI reissued to it this month

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

on the other hand, i probably wouldn't mind this upcoming 1.5 years of campaign season if it's nothing but zings and constant busting on the vice president

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama brings the ROFLZ!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 February 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Barney Frank will not seek reelection

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/11/breaking-barney-frank-to-retire.html

Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think some other parts of the world might think differently about us if we elect a guy with Hussein in his name.

not so much as long as he keeps drone-bombing 'em, eh?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

That Nobel Peace Prize may have been a mistake. Now that he has one, he obv isn't aiming for two.

Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing Bill Frist and Sam Brownback's names on this thread remind me of how far we've sunk.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of brownback

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

#heblowsalot

drugs a. money (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

She tweets that a politician "sucks" and someone on his staff contacts her school principal about it?! I am speechless at this assininity.

Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeh fuck him

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

wow!!!

superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

I love the SRS BIZNIZ happening in the comments on that article

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

WDinDallas
Typical youth of today. No respect, no discipline, all about me attitude. She will not make it in the real world. Suicide waiting to happen.

superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Monday, 28 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

very disappointed that there's no followup "oops that was supposed to only go to my friends" comment on that one

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Loved this line from NRO yesterday: "This is the moment where it’s going to be hardest for Gingrich to restrain his Newtness."

clemenza, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/the-future-of-the-obama-coalition/?hp

Giving up on trying to appeal to white folks who do not have college degrees-

For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretence of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

It is instructive to trace the evolution of a political strategy based on securing this coalition in the writings and comments, over time, of such Democratic analysts as Stanley Greenberg and Ruy Teixeira. Both men were initially determined to win back the white working-class majority, but both currently advocate a revised Democratic alliance in which whites without college degrees are effectively replaced by well-educated socially liberal whites in alliance with the growing ranks of less affluent minority voters, especially Hispanics.

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's based on very little evidence

"A top priority of the less affluent wing of today’s left alliance is the strengthening of the safety net, including health care, food stamps, infant nutrition and unemployment compensation. These voters generally take the brunt of recessions and are most in need of government assistance to survive. According to recent data from the Department of Agriculture, 45.8 million people, nearly 15 percent of the population, depend on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to meet their needs for food."

uh right clearly not things that would appeal to poor non-whites

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

basically there's a difference between 'the numbers look better for us in colorado than ohio' and 'obama gives up on poor whites'. if anything the story is 'poor whites gave up on obama'.

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://takingnote.tcf.org/2008/11/digging-into-th.html

(also mostly didn't vote for him in 2008)

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

That NYT article just accepts the reality that Reagan Democrats are now Rush Republicans.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

The New Deal Coalition — which included unions, city machines, blue-collar workers, farmers, blacks, people on relief, and generally non-affluent progressive intellectuals — had the advantage of economic coherence. It received support across the board from voters of all races and religions in the bottom half of the income distribution, the very coherence the current Democratic coalition lacks.

Yes, although FDR flip-flopped a bit too. If Obama and the Democratic Party had offered a strong and consistent and coherent economic message (lets pretend the blue dogs and the Goldman Sachs crowd didn't exist) would that have won back Rush Republicans, or just aggravated them more?

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

we haven't had rush republicans for a long time and there's good reason to believe that the reason goes beyond economics.

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

we = San Francisco?

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

oh I'm sorry were you not aware I am a registered democrat

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

lets call the next politics thread #heblowsalot

max max max max, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

sounds good to me

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link


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