Tower Records -- the continuing collapse

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it looks closed from the front but there's a side entrance that's open.

without you i'm nothing (get bent), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

no scott walker, ned? :(

Ray Cummings (skateboardr), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

My store isn't closed yet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumor control has it that most of the Southern California stock is going to the Sherman Oaks store which will hang on for another week or so.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Won't be able to make that, alas. Still, if someone sees a spare This Heat box set around there...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i wrote a post yesterday but it seems to have not posted for some reason. anyway this tower sale forced me to come to terms with my own collectorism and relationship to cds; i keep feeling regret that I didn't pick up a few other things that I saw earlier, even though I have mp3s of them and could probably even find them used for as much as they were at tower.

yesterday I went to sell about 200 cds at amoeba and there were probably 40 they wouldn't even take, most of them not dogs either. I told the manager I'd suddenly realized that if I were going to ever get rid of my cds I'd better do it now before the value of them vanishes and he said it's already happened; it peaked in april, and since then the onslaught of sold-back cds is overwhelming them. they have warehouses full that they will never see the floor in. Ack! Knowing all this, why do I still wish I'd picked up some MORE stuff at tower? ludicrous!

akm (akmonday), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i still want the this heat box set though. actually I'll settle for JUST Deceit. when are they going to put that out by itself?

akm (akmonday), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xp: the this heat box sets were gone two days after they went out at mine.

GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

yesterday I went to sell about 200 cds at amoeba and there were probably 40 they wouldn't even take, most of them not dogs either. I told the manager I'd suddenly realized that if I were going to ever get rid of my cds I'd better do it now before the value of them vanishes and he said it's already happened; it peaked in april, and since then the onslaught of sold-back cds is overwhelming them. they have warehouses full that they will never see the floor in.

This is fascinating. There's a massive glut of the objects on the market (plus the Tower liquidation had to hurt all other music retailers) and still prices don't fall. How can music continue to cost money when it can be endlessly replicated for free? The future has to point to music being free.

Mark (Mark R), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

yesterday I went to sell about 200 cds at amoeba and there were probably 40 they wouldn't even take, most of them not dogs either. I told the manager I'd suddenly realized that if I were going to ever get rid of my cds I'd better do it now before the value of them vanishes and he said it's already happened; it peaked in april, and since then the onslaught of sold-back cds is overwhelming them. they have warehouses full that they will never see the floor in. Ack! Knowing all this, why do I still wish I'd picked up some MORE stuff at tower? ludicrous!

So why are Amoeba used prices so high then? And why aren't there more things I want when I go in there. :(

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

they may not be very good at pulling stock or predicting people's tastes these days. and like anything else (houses, or the rental market), prices stay high for as long as they can until they absolutely can't anymore. but i've found amoeba's used prices to be fairly reasonable.

akm (akmonday), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i made my fourth and perhaps final tower run today, while in woodland hills. 80% off! i got all these for $46:

islands - return to the sea
neko case - the tigers have spoken
black heart procession - the spell
moodymann - black mahogani
detroit cobras - baby
annie - anniemal
black strobe - the other side: paris
mountain goats - we shall all be healed
architecture in helsinki - in case we die
excepter - sunbomber
echo and the bunnymen - songs to learn and sing
nao wave
jolie holland - springtime can kill you
the hold steady - boys and girls in america (i don't like these dudes, but it'll make a good stocking stuffer for someone)

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"they may not be very good at pulling stock or predicting people's tastes these days."

Not my tastes anyway.

"but i've found amoeba's used prices to be fairly reasonable."

Too much stuff for $11, $12, $13 at the SF one. The Berkeley one is more reasonable, I agree.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(i don't like these dudes, but it'll make a good stocking stuffer for someone)

haha all my relatives are getting california g-rap in their stockings

deej (deej), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the Pasadena store at lunch today, also at %80 off. Managed to still spend $50+. I'll hit it again Wednesday just for a last look. The Woodland Hills store sounds better stocked than mine. Pasadena didn't have any Mountain Goats at the beginning of the sale. (Plenty of Mountain Con, whoever that it, though.)

nickn (nickn), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I am buying shirts tomorrow before I go to work, but I might stop by Tower and see if it's still open. Maybe I can find something worth $.50.

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

is anyone else seeing dozens of those weird joe montana dvds at every tower?

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The porn thing?

Mark (Mark R), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup the porn thing.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that's just a two hour loop of his "I'll be upstairs masturbating" sketch from SNL.

Baron Von Jigglesworth (Baron Von Jigglesworth), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

80% at my store and what I was able to get at the price I got it at was RIDICULOUS. Tomorrow's the last day and I'll swing by to bone-strip whatever's left of the Six Degrees stuff that looks halfway interesting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

This is fascinating. There's a massive glut of the objects on the market (plus the Tower liquidation had to hurt all other music retailers) and still prices don't fall. How can music continue to cost money when it can be endlessly replicated for free? The future has to point to music being free.

You didn't hear it from me, but there's a very good rumor that the Virgin Megastores are going to be the next to go in mid-2007. It won't be a full-on bankruptcy like Tower, but lots of store closures/stock liquidation.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not surprised by that at all. The one around here shut up shop a couple of years back, as did the Moby Disc. With Tower gone now, that leaves Second Spin as the only record store in a three block range where there were once four total -- and Second Spin won't be going anywhere, I suspect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Today was the last day for the Emeryville Tower, and I picked up a few random things for $1 each. I was basically making guesses based on the label, even though I've been burned by some of those labels (ECM!!) in the past. Fuck it, it's a dollar. They unlocked the door to let me out because I was among the final customers.

When I was a kid, the Tower Records near the sports arena in San Diego was, for me, the ultimate record store, the coolest place in the universe. It feels a little weird to realize that it won't exist anymore, and it won't even make a good story for my grandkids. I mean, I even worked at a Tower when I was a teenager.

Michael (Oakland Mike), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised to see almost no talk at the Amazon Marketplace sellers' boards about a product glut due to the Tower clearance sales. There's the usual amount of talk about depressed prices due to downloading, but nothing about Tower.

I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You didn't hear it from me, but there's a very good rumor that the Virgin Megastores are going to be the next to go in mid-2007. It won't be a full-on bankruptcy like Tower, but lots of store closures/stock liquidation.

-- Elvis Telecom (quartzcit...), December 19th, 2006. (later)

that's not surprising at all, they're down to something like 13 stores. newbury comics is a larger chain at this point!

Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like to thank all the customers that shopped at the Emeryville store over the last few weeks for making my job so much easier and buying every single CD in that store. Also, thanks for allowing me to buy my second copy of the Burial album (Wire's LP of the year, I hear...) on the very last day for $1. I will send it to Eastern Europe to someone that might like it.

Cristian Ceia (bruno_stroszek), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

How can music continue to cost money when it can be endlessly replicated for free? The future has to point to music being free.

-- Mark (mark-...), December 18th, 2006.

So musicians will only make money by performing live? I don't think so. Will all Pitchfork employees work for free?

cornyrocker (DC Steve), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 07:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I stopped by Harvard Tower today after work, but unfortunately they had already placed their "closed forever!" sign on the door. So I was not able to buy all those low-rent deep/soulful/funky/ibiza house compilations for 1 and 2 dollars. Apparently someone did though...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

as long as american apparel hoodies, diesel jeans, griffin music players and chronicle books still cost money, pitchfork employees will get paid

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway the only indie musicians that *do* make money these days are the ones that sell their music for movie soundtracks and TV commercials.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I see some kind of donation system coming about to supplement live performance and licensing. I'm thinking, say, the programmer who made SpyBot, a "Free" product, probably does all right.

Will all Pitchfork employees work for free?

-- cornyrocker

I worry about it all the time, believe me.

Mark (Mark R), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently I said my farewell to Tower prematurely. I think the sign said 3 more days to go. Everything is 80% off.

I went back today and picked up:

Nao Wave (which I had forgotten to look for previously, and was very surprised to find)
Legendary Sound, Vol. 1 (which Alex in SF recommends, I thought on this thread, not that I expect much overlap in our taste but I hardly have any drum & bass and was just thinking I might want to pick up a little tiny bit more)

arthritic hand golden fist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Alright this is going to be my final trek, because frankly there didn't seem to be much else there and I'm beginning to feel a bit Tower drained at this point. This lot costs me $25:

Dubstep Allstars Vol 2 (3 or 4 copies left, none of Vol 3)
Get Physical comps 1 & 2 (or Anniversary 2 & 4, I can't quite figure it out.) (one copy of each left)
Optimo Presents Psyche Out (nearly 10 copies of this, I suppose I could wait for it to get cheaper, but $5 seems fair enough.)
Science Faction: Grime (last copy)
Dabrye Two/Three (last copy)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I hear you on the burnout front (not the least for financial reasons), so I'm glad today is it for me! Oh yeah, FWIW -- picked up that jungle comp you'd noted a few days back at mine, so roxor.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha okay well I don't know what'll do with the extra copy I bought for you then.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is okay. It's a nice comp. I'll save it for a present for someone who really deserves it. ;)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahah! Yeah, sorry about that, but I hadn't heard from you if you had picked it up or not! You gotta let me know these things! But I'll buy it off you if you like, I think I can spare the two bucks. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

GAWD PUNCH to thread!

I found a second copy of the Yester/Henske album. Let me know if you still need it. The email address is good.

PFS (pfs), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha I said DONE up above, Ned.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

SORRY I R STUPID. (Must have been that Seattle trip.)

Which reminds me a bit -- you free Friday/Saturday? FAP plans are imminent.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure. This weekend is looking a bit stretched, but I might have time on Friday.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Today is the last day in Portland--90% off with promises of further discounts closer to closing. I don't know if I'm burnt out exactly, but I have a dim sense that the madness probably needs to stop. I got:

Judy Henske & Jerry Yester Farewell Aldebaran
V/A Fast Product: Rigour Discipline and Disgust (score! I've been looking for this for years.)
Chris Knox Yes!!
The Methadones 21st Century Power Pop Riot
The Minus 5 The Trials Postumous of...
The Duke Spirit Cuts Across the Land
The Dambuilders Geek Lust
Chris Cutler & Fred Frith Live in Moscow, Prague & Washington
Godandtexas Criminal Element
fluf the classic years
Alan Vega New Raceion
Batman: OST
The Knife Silent Shout
Arthur Russell The World of...
Pretty Girls Make Graves The New Romance
These Arms Are Snakes This Is Meant to Hurt You
V/A Wake Up and Listen! A Brand New Generation of Hits (britpop 1995: shitloads of hits)
Young Fresh Fellows Low Beat Time
The Kelly Deal 6000 Go to the Sugar Altar
The Coachwhips Double Death
The Coachwhips Peanut Butter and Jelly: Live at the Ginger Winge
The Coachwhips Bangers vs Fuckers
The Coachwhips Put Yer Body Next to Mine
Trapdoor Fucking Exit Crooked Life/Straight World
The Zodiac Killers Have a Blast
Portastatic Who Loves the Sun
Radio 4 Enemies Like These
Ecstacy Passion & Pain s/t
V/A Optimo Present Psyche Out
Slowdive Souvlaki
The Modern Machines "Take It, Somebody!"
Alternative TV Apollo
Edgar Broughton Band LIVE Hits Harder!
Ditch Croaker Chimpfactor
The Futureheads News and Tributes
Sweep the Leg Johnny Going Down Swingin'
Rahbras Whohm

Total: $60.90

PFS (pfs), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I seriously think EVERYBODY will have all the Coachwhips albums at this point.

I might have time on Friday

Rock. Will call M. White tomorrow night to plot a bit, I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

90% off with promises of further discounts closer to closing

Mr. Crump mentioned it was down to 50 cents a disc towards the end when he hit the Memphis one. Yesterday was 80% plus 'buy four get one for a buck' and by the time I get there I suspect it'll be 90% plus that. I'm honestly not expecting much but there'll be some dusty remnants still! (And there were still a huge amount of copies of the new Dengue Fever album, which is quite good, so I'll get some as gifts.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

'Yesterday' referring to my store, not Memphis's, obv.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

For some reason, we don't have the massive Six Degrees overstock here, so I had to get all four Coachwhips albums to compensate.

That, and I really have heard good things about them.

PFS (pfs), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Mr. Matos specifically recommended Double Death so I snagged that up in Seattle. The rest I'll pick up today assuming they aren't finally cleared out (which they might be).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I seriously believe that you do not have to worry about that.

PFS (pfs), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link


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