There will be no sandbox Detrius 2011 thread.

donna rouge, la donna più bella d'italia

ah, awes, hello &c
yeah year end lists are always fascinating & frustrating in equal measure, triply so if you live outsida new york

this thread always makes me feel better abt my own top ten list

McQueen is getting 20x the attention for his crap second film than his brilliant debut.

Do you find this surprising in some way?

I was thinking 10x

Just watched Tinker Tailor. Quite enjoyable, I thought. (Having not yet seen the '79 version.)

Just watched Beginners and then read Lord Soto's review which I thought was absolutely spot on. I laughed a lot at the bit about Goran Visnjic's character

Best Actress: Tilda Swinton, We Need to Talk About Kevin
Best Original Screenplay: Will Reiser, 50/50
Best Adapted Screenplay: Alexander Payne and Nat Faxon & Jim Rash
Breakthrough Performance: Rooney Mara, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Debut Director: J.C. Chandor, Margin Call
Best Ensemble: The Help

UGH, I wouldn't rank a single one of these. (Well, maybe Chandor did an okay job directing, but the script was a big 'feh')

Have you seen Dragon Tattoo remy?

Yah, unfortu. P.S. I haven't seen We Need to Talk About Kevin, I just can't stand Tilda Swinton in anything people have ever, ever given as an example of a good performance.

Not good then? Didn't have high hopes tbh

I don't like the conceit, the book, or the Swedish movie, so I don't really know why I'd like the remake. But I'm perpetually unimpressed with David Fincher's technical gimcrackery; I kind of feel he missed his calling as film school survey f/x course professor.

I've never had any interest in the DragTat thing, so if they don't make it easy for me to see it I won't be troubled.

Woody Harrelson is fine as usual in Rampart, but there's not much to the film besides the not-so-tragic James Ellroy tale of the fall of a dirty LA cop in the late '90s.

also saw a beautifully lensed doc-neorealist mix of Thai sharecroppers, Agrarian Utopia.

I just can't stand Tilda Swinton in anything people have ever, ever given as an example of a good performance.

I'm pretty unreasonable on Tilda too. I can't remember seeing anything she's been in and not thinking she's given the best performance ever.

i guess margaret is out in the uk? peter bradshaw gave it 5 stars~

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/dec/01/margaret-film-review

didn't like the Italian family thing last year, but she did save Julia from being unredeemably bad. Since I like Lynne Ramsay's miserabilism I have some hopes for Kevin. xp

It looks like Jaime's petition worked or had good timing, bcz Margaret is going to get some critic screenings.

if I haven't mentioned yet, Vanessa R, Brian Cox, and R Fiennes are all stellar in Coriolanus (roughly in that order).

margaret on one (1) screen in the uk fwiw
i would be psyched to catch it on dvd if i didn't suspect it may only be released on import laserdisc

wld think itd be ripe for ondemand, etc like Melancholia but who knows

also i didnt know scott rudin was a producer of it. sorta shocked he cant get more distro but mb he doesnt want to

there's a piece in the new sight & sound on its spiteful distro setup, w/bizarre details about contractual limits to running time, etc (w/the edit coming in twelve seconds under the 2 1/2 hr ceiling); does just seem like an act of reprimand to release it so unenthusiastically. i hope the dvd w/the three hour cut comes out, anyway

If I were a writer-director I'd create roles just for Vanessa R.

if it's true that Scorsese and Schoonmaker edited this cut of Margaret, it's Marty's best work in years.

How was Coriolanus? I'm waiting on a screener...

Since I like Lynne Ramsay's miserabilism I have some hopes for Kevin.

I've enjoyed all of her work too, although Morvern Callar a little less than the rest. MC was a little trés dreamy and elliptical for me, and I felt like it suffered a little from story-lack. But the source material for Kevin is pretty dense and phenom, and if it doesn't fall to sentimentality I think it will be a fantastic – difficult - film.

I went in not knowing it was gonna be contemporary, shot partly in the Balkans with Hurt Locker-style shooting (same DP), lotsa cable news tableaus etc, and was pleasantly surprised. Can't think of a Shakespeare film I've liked since the Hawke/Almereyda Hamlet.

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Have you guys read the play? That charater's so difficult to render.

I haven't, and I bet cutting half the text was a good move here. RF has played it on stage before.

I was actually planning on reading it this weekend prior to watching – a co-teacher recommended it as "Hamlet, but for grown-ups."

Sounds minor.

re: Scorsese and Margaret, according to Lonergan, he worked on a "fuller" cut that no one's seen yet.

I don't really like the tragedies that much, except for Othello.

I'm not sure this comes across as a tragedy! Caius Martius is such a prick. There should be more parts for 75ish actresses in butch military drag, tho.

Eric, how can something with world-class classical acting be considered mino... oh, you.

I didn't recognize Vincent Cassel in his meaty, brief A Dangerous Methodrole after being left with the caricature he drew in the ballet potboiler last winter.

Morbs, you're getting me awfully psyched to see the Cronenberg -- too bad the nearest it will come to this location is at least a 2 hour drive, and possibly more like 3 1/2.

I think it helps w/ ADM to believe psychoanalysis is essentially ridiculous, as I do in my Irish Catholic heart.

RF has played it on stage before.

Apparently the first acting job Gerard Butler ever had was in the ensemble of Coriolanus. History!

much barely sublimated man-pounding btwn Fiennes and Butler here

Detrius '12 all wrapped up.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/12/02/tim-erics-billion-dollar-movie-red-band-trailer

yesssss.

Since I didn't crack a smile, I suppose those guys are big on cable.

Typical NYC award screening attendee on line for The Artist: 80-year-old woman who asks "Is this the one with Meryl Streep?"

Huh, seems I'm the one who likes comedy now.

the unfunny post-1977 kind yah

What does 1977 represent? Annie Hall?

Kentucky Fried Movie?

Star Wars

Annie Hall, Let's Get Small, an extra year of Bicentennial Nigger, the deaths of Chaplin and Groucho

...the last time Jimmy Carter boasted high approval ratings

So it's even then. You don't like unfunny post 1977 comedies, and I don't like unfunny pre-1950 comedies.

LOL, meant to type 1960

What does 1960 represent -- Nixon/Kennedy debate?