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I think it's important to remember that Gingrich was chased out of DC not by the Democrats but by HIS OWN PARTY

Sure, but the reason they chased him out was because the Republicans over-all did poorly in the '98 midterms, partly related to blow-back from the Clinton impeachment, even though Newt himself was re-elected. And they didn't really chase him out anyway, he resigned on his own. Maybe they didn't want him as speaker any more, but it was his own choice to leave the House. Whatever enemies he made among fellow Republicans in those days are probably not in a position of influence to impede his progress today.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

right, the only thing that can impede him is people talking about basically anything he's ever done in his life

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

<i>nixon did not divorce his wife cause she had cancer</i>

One of the most moving defenses of Nixon I've ever encountered.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

McCain divorced his wife while she was recovering from a bad car accident, didn't he? And that didn't stop him from securing the nomination last time.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Read that as 'screwing the nomination'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

mccain had been in the spotlight for decades, 'maverick', warhero, whatever. gingrich's bio isn't established in the same way.

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

it's a Rasmussen poll.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

And they didn't really chase him out anyway, he resigned on his own. Maybe they didn't want him as speaker any more, but it was his own choice to leave the House. Whatever enemies he made among fellow Republicans in those days are probably not in a position of influence to impede his progress today.

These people would disagree.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

One point Sullivan keeps making--I have no idea if this is true--is that Rasmussen polls are narrowly reliable when trying to figure out what Republicans are thinking.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Rasmussen leans right, yeah.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'll check in on Palin's Facebook page now and again. Her true believers are understandably befuddled and distraught at the moment.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Whatever enemies he made among fellow Republicans in those days are probably not in a position of influence to impede his progress today.

lol you mean like Dick Armey? who bankrolls the Tea Party and hates Gingrich's guts?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

The term “gnome” wasn’t directed at Jim, no matter how short he may be

lol

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

actually I dunno how Armey feels about Gingrich these days, maybe it's all water under the bridge

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

also lol nobody resigns on their own from an elected position. they resign because the alternatives are worse.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I could point you to the NRO debate about whether Gingrich and Billy shared an Irish whiskey by themselves; Armey is involved somehow.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

The confusion and internecine shivings on the right are making me rub my hands in glee.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

the very IDEA of two pols sharing a drink, like their claques always said Tip and Ronnie did.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

McCain divorced his wife while she was recovering from a bad car accident, didn't he? And that didn't stop him from securing the nomination last time.

actually lol there are several parallels between mccain '08 lol and gingrich '11 lol.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

lol romney getting passed on the racetrack by a 120 year-old lol

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Dick Armey told me Newt and Bill Clinton had had secret meetings at which they talked about their girlfriends.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Those guys stick around for longer than you'd think. Apparently Boehner and Gingrich have some history too:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/195427-lawmakers-not-flocking-to-gingrich

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

“He’s a guy of 1,000 ideas, and the attention span of a 1-year-old,”

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

LOLGOP -- Michele Bachmann: "I will immediately reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell. It's worked wonderfully in my marriage."
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LOLGOP -- RT @Lizardoid: Bachmann is not opposed to gay people marrying, as long as the marriage is a loveless sham

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

okay that isn't a real Bachmann quote is it

because if it is I might explode from lols

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

sadly, it isn't.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

nah, lolgop is all fake...but hilarious.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

but it could be bachmann!

she says some crazy stuff!

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure that anyone cares too much what some old Republican Congressmen think of Newt though - if anyone lacks credibility in today's political climate, it's Congress. It's more important what someone like Roger Ailes thinks:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1211/Foxs_temptation_Newt.html

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

thehill articles are interesting:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/195427-lawmakers-not-flocking-to-gingrich

In contrast, Mitt Romney, another front-runner for the GOP nomination, has announced several Republican congressional endorsements in recent days, including Sens. John Thune (S.D.) and Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Rep. Charlie Bass (N.H.).

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/196441-newts-hand-always-six-inches-from-the-self-destruct-button

There’s some evidence that Romney’s campaign might be getting nervous — it pressed Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), who represents Iowa’s neighbor to the west, to announce his endorsement early. Thune said he was thinking about waiting until closer to the caucuses.

Thune, who served with Gingrich in the House in 1997 and 1998, said his endorsement of Romney was not a statement against the former Speaker.

“It wasn’t like I was deciding against anybody, I just decided for Romney,” Thune said. “My view was that at certain times in the nation’s history you need certain styles of leadership. Right now we need somebody who knows what it’s like to turn failing enterprises around. Romney’s done that in business, he did that with the Olympics.”

slandblox goole, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

do the ppl who are all "let's run the US like a business" realize that we can't just deport our unemployed citizens or are they just completely unaware of how most businesses are turned around/saved?

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

ah yes the failing business of the Olympics

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

all federal gov't work will be outsourced to Bangalore

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

do the ppl who are all "let's run the US like a business" realize that we can't just deport our unemployed citizens or are they just completely unaware of how most businesses are turned around/saved?

Ask Florida how that Rick Scott thing is working out for them.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

we love our governor stop being mean

http://valdoespolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/rick-scott-omg.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

I left Florida four months ago and he still haunts my dreams.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

jesus christ, Halloween was two calendar pages ago, cut that out

William (C), Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Marc Rubio was in charge of Florida who's this Rick Scott clown

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

The governor.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Rubio is the junior senator.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

I know just makin a lil joke

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

This is such a runaway story right now, maybe it really is about to come crashing down.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/romneys-rasmussen-gap-ctd.html

clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

well, either the story or romney will crash down, it seems.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

"what's Gingrich's fundraising lookin like?" is a more pertinent question than "what does Rassmussen say?"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

a poll is a story

CAN WE ALL JUST BE BLOWN UP?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Romney ran in 2008, with almost the same electorate as today, and was soundly rejected then. That means there is a huge percentage of GOP voters who made up their minds against Romney once already. To me, that is very interesting.

What exactly has he done to fundamentally alter all those prior decisons to become favorable this time around? Seems to me, damn little.

That's why his being annointed as the inevitable winner has always seemed so odd to me. Usually, after an abject failure, the candidate must at least go through the motions of re-inventing himself - unless, of course, he is Bob Dole.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Aimless- he has gone through the process of being less crazy than absolutely everyone around him, and also not having a name which means booty juices

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ergo, the serial stampede. It is always away from Romney, no matter where else it seems to be headed.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link


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