OCCUPY SANDBOX

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I think ows is so different from previous movements, mostly due to the media+internet, that it's dangerous to compare it to / model it on anything. and I think if ows 2.0 is gonna be a success, it's gonna have to be radically different in the same way.

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

imo that prob suggests something that 'exists' online more than irl but remains capable of mobilizing and achieving things w/ tangible end results

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

plus lotsa Panthers got shot

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

and put on trial

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

it's dangerous to compare it to / model it on anything

Looking for analogies from the past as a guide is just plain smart, if it is done well. But you can't just stop once you've identified the commonalities; you have to go on and identify the differences and what they mean in terms of different opportunities and directions. Slavish adherence to past experience just repeats old mistakes and adds new ones.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

that Hilliard book is dope btw

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1g3Xps68g&

my old boss's boss's boss's boss

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message. "They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism."

SUCCESS

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol at the 'wonderful distribution' amongst mexican drug cartels.

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

that list is so gross

rayuela, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

i like how "one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message"'s answer to "people are starting to dislike this word" is once again "quick replace it with 'freedom'!" can i get paid to do this too pls

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

i love that it got out though, it's like getting a seminar in lightsaber fighting from darth vader

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

did i really just say that

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

is it possible Luntz is frontin'? where was that said?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington. You should occupy the White House because it's the policies over the past few years that have created this problem."

lol, THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT IS DOING THIS ALREADY!

superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

also "hmmm"

Never translate German (schlump), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol, THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT IS DOING THIS ALREADY!

― superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:40 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

dude with an "#occupyDC" column in tweetdeck i CAN NOT TELL YOU how often i see this line

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

is it possible Luntz is frontin'? where was that said?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:36 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

The Republican Governors Association met this week in Florida to give GOP state executives a chance to rejuvenate, strategize and team-build. But during a plenary session on Wednesday, one question kept coming up: How can Republicans do a better job of talking about Occupy Wall Street?
"I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I doubt Luntz is fronting otoh is he really stupid enough to let the press in on such a seminar without thinking about how it will play...? (ans: maybe)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Well I've always wondered abt him bc he does those bits in the Colbert report. This list looks like the outcomes of the focus groups he does with Colbert.

I feel like he's basically saying that it doesn't matter if we see behind the curtain because that's how effective it is to say "careers" instead of "jobs"

rayuela, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

occupy boston: sonned over a sink beef?

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 2 December 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

they good ppl

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 2 December 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

WeHo LGBTs marching Saturday

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/12/saturday-weho-lgbt-99-march.html

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

24hr event apparently underway in times square

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/384928_2741065892319_1427583604_2990990_1872315940_n.jpg

Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

hunger strike across the street from my office. Guess I won't eat my lunch on the benches facing these guys.

http://occupywallst.org/article/ows-hunger-strike-new-outdoor-occupation/

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 4 December 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

that wells fargo mic check is so good. so stirring. when the applause comes in though, is that people applauding the sentiment of the mic check or the fact that they're being thrown out?

judith, Sunday, 4 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

think it's the latter :/

worth reposting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ePZHSOmvQ

dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

the occupy k st livestream is terrifying right now

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

wha happen?

sleeve sandbox, Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

I just see a lot of hoodies

JmC (step hen faps), Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

they built a big temporary wooden structure/shelter overnight; park police came in and gave them orders to dismantle it, eventually cordoned it off, and began arresting people. there were a couple dozen people inside/atop the structure when the stream went out, and there's some sort of standoff ongoing afaik - the last shot you saw on the stream was of a bunch of cops trying to pull pieces of the building down and the cameraman falling/getting pushed over

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 4 December 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

arrests are starting now

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Why the cockshit did they try to build a ferchrisakes barn?

camp yo lo tengo autumn sweater saturday night (rusty flathead screwdriver), Monday, 5 December 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

fucking shit you guys

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:21 (twelve years ago) link

what a fucking day

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

all told there were 31 arrests, about half of which were people inside the ~occubarn~ and half of which were people who crossed police lines to get food & other supplies to those inside. cops tried to tackle my friend rooj when someone gave her bread, but she twisted out of her jacket and got away. mike was hit with the tazer pins, but at the last moment the officer who fired the tazer *didn't* send through the electric shock. mike has a heart murmur, and it could have fucked him up something fierce. the last guy clinging to the structure was named david, and as the cherry picker & 5 other cops worked over half an hour to wrangle him down the crowd started chanting "david beats goliath! david beats goliath!" so that was kinda cool.

i'm a little bit annoyed by the whole affair, honestly, because as i recall when we consented to this project in GA it was on the understanding that if we were asked to take it down we would do so in order to protect the camp at large. in the heat of the moment the opposite happened. still, though, media team worked to frame this on-message, and i think we did well. cnn & the times running with the themes we worked in the release--"we built this structure to shelter ourselves, but also to highlight the systematic dismantling of services for the poor. we thank the park police for helping us fully realize this piece of theater by tearing it down with a bulldozer." the times even quoted part of the release, and it was a little surreal to see my own writing in the fucking times.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

my man

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

hoos, you're the fucking man, in case you didn't know

xp

k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link

I echo that sentiment. Well fucking played.

Simon H., Monday, 5 December 2011 06:44 (twelve years ago) link

well done, hoos

silvana mangano, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

thx guyz but i just wrote some shit & tweeted--i spent my evening hugging the people who'd gotten arrested and released.

also david shuster rolled though to give daps to our livestreamer for his impressive reporting from the front line; easily a half dozen people found him and said "your commentary on this stream is the reason i came out here."

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:49 (twelve years ago) link

oh also i went to a positive force meeting (!!) on saturday and got some emails for people who want to help promote this punk show i'm organizing at the square, including possibly "the dc punk vegan" ie ian mackaye.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:52 (twelve years ago) link

my man adrian just liked a comment i made on fb, so i guess he's out of jail. lol.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:54 (twelve years ago) link

damn what's the big homie shuster up to these days

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

BIG SHUS

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

o i see he works for current.tv -_-

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:56 (twelve years ago) link


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