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Nice little interview with Al Franken on his senate run

If they want to turn this race into a referendum on my career as a comedian, I guess that’s their prerogative. But I think Minnesotans are smart people with a very low tolerance for b.s., and I’m going to keep talking about how we can make things better for working families. The attacks didn’t work in 2006, and they’re not going to work in 2008. They may work in 2010; it’s too early to say.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

working families

get me a gun

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh don't be grumpy, Grumpy

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

the kind of Senators Minnesota has given the country: leaders like Hubert Humphrey

Unionbusting mayor of Minneapolis, sold out the Mississippi Freedom Democrats at '64 convention, no guts on Vietnam in '68... What a leader.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://techpresident.com/

these guys are tracking the web use of the candidates, incl. flickr feeds and # of myspace adds. Obama & Clinton currently lead at 44K and 23K.

Sam Brownback has 184.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

nice site - another reason i like Edwards, his web team is way ahead of everyone else

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Today's Slate of Links Kingfish Found for You to Read:
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For those of you who remember my thread on dealing with authoritarians, one of the keystones of that thing was John Dean's great book _Conservatives without Conscience_. Dean based a lot of that book on the research of Bob Altemeyer, a professor in the Psych Dept at the University of Manitoba.

Altemeyer has now written an entire book about his work, called _The Authoritarians_, and is posting the entire thing, chapter by chapter, for free online. It's written for a mass-audience, but he actually takes the effort to add enough footnotes containing all the techie bits for those who want that. I like what i've read of it so far.

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On a related note, John Dean's book was reviewed in an ish of the American Conservative last July, where Austim Bramwell spent the majority of the piece going after Altemeyer's work w/o understanding or explaining much of what it entailed.

Interestingly, the AmCon editors gave Altemeyer a chance to respond in the very same issue, which is great mix of "WTF are you on about?" and "here's what the stuff actually said had you read it."

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Is "working families" coding for yuppies?

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Not in most instances I've seen. I've usually seen it used as not-really-coding as "people who actually have dayjobs instead of trust funds."

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

right, but morbius and some other people hear this and other ways to talk about the folk - like "regular people" - and only hear a negative definition (i.e. "working people" is supposed to be an attack on all those people who don't work and "regular people" is in distinction to weirdos)

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

regular people = BREEDERS

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

right, except breeders don't hear it that way (the few who do vote gop already)

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

So what's your point? that everybody who hears the term "working families" has a similar level of jaded cynicism and reacts Morbz-style?

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

hot warner on obama action

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Next bullshit talking point: the Slow Bleed

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently a friend of mine just passed Obama at the Ferry Bldg in SF, I guess he's here for some fundraiser with Boxer.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"working people" vs "working FAMILIES" is a gulf of a difference.

ppl who use this kinda test-marketed jargon are the cynics, my dear.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama is having a big rally here on friday. Originally it was at a gym on campus, just down the street from my building. I was looking forward to skipping down there and basking in the spirit. (I attended a Clinton/Gore rally here on campus in 92 so also felt it would be good luck.)

But the demand for tickets was so high they've moved it a much, much larger venue on the banks of Town Lake. It would involve missing a half day of work to go down there and back so I don't think I can go. yay for him, boo for me.

― Ms Misery (MsMisery), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"working people" vs "working FAMILIES" is a gulf of a difference

otm, we've already got most of the single people

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

most of the single people ain't voting

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

that can't possibly be true

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Single young people, particularly women, are more likely to vote than married young people. The turnout among single women age 18-24 led the way and increased by 12 percentage points, or about one third, since 2000.

http://www.civicyouth.org/quick/youth_voting.htm

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

now strike "young"

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah. that's crazy. it was 67% to 44% (married/non married) in the 2000 election.

― Dead Dylan Thomas (Party with me Punker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

From reading his work, one gets the idea that Bob Somerby is getting closer and closer to losing it completely from sheer exasperation.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Unionbusting mayor of Minneapolis, sold out the Mississippi Freedom Democrats at '64 convention, no guts on Vietnam in '68... What a leader.

and what evidence do you have that humphrey was a "union-buster"? this is the 1st time that i've heard this accusation about him.

― Eisbär (Eisbär), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a HASTINGS shout-out in that Franken video.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

down in Arizona, there's a state bill that will fine up to $500 for a myriad of in-class activities, including:

Advocating “one side of a social, political, or cultural issue that is a matter of partisan controversy.”

even professional douchebag David Horowitz released a statement that thi s was going a bit far

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

this David Geffen-Obama-Hillary spat is hilarious but uh, bodes ill for the campaign. things are gonna get nasty for sure if this is any indication. although honestly I can't see Hillary running anything besides a very aggro campaign...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a HASTINGS shout-out in that Franken video.

That's Dan Perry one step closer to the White House, then.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

so wait did no one else see/hear/read David Geffen calling Clinton "kind of a reckless guy" etc.?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that's right, no one else heard/saw/read that

― nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't tell if yr being sarcastic so um here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070221/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/20/dreamworks-geffen-slams-_n_41732.html

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

enh, whatever. 21 months of this shit left.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah can't say I'm lookin forward to it

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/switch-to-sprint-support-planned-parenthood-and-skip-on-the-fee-239003.php

― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Friday, 23 February 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheney douchebaggery continues unabated:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_iraq

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still waiting for the call of damnation down on Sprint, and their castigation on the rightwing shows 24/7. Maybe it just takes the news a bit to get out.

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(Gameboy?)

― nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 24 February 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he meant Gameboy Advance, which just had Final Fantasy VI reissued to it this month

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

on the other hand, i probably wouldn't mind this upcoming 1.5 years of campaign season if it's nothing but zings and constant busting on the vice president

― they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Saturday, 24 February 2007 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama brings the ROFLZ!

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 February 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Barney Frank will not seek reelection

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/11/breaking-barney-frank-to-retire.html

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think some other parts of the world might think differently about us if we elect a guy with Hussein in his name.

not so much as long as he keeps drone-bombing 'em, eh?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

That Nobel Peace Prize may have been a mistake. Now that he has one, he obv isn't aiming for two.

― Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing Bill Frist and Sam Brownback's names on this thread remind me of how far we've sunk.

― Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of brownback

― OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

#heblowsalot

― drugs a. money (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

She tweets that a politician "sucks" and someone on his staff contacts her school principal about it?! I am speechless at this assininity.

― Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeh fuck him

― gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

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