those are both amazing
― OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
only saw the last few drives of wash vs seattle last wk but tavaris looked so bad i could almost not believe it
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
The Hawks beat the Ravens in Seattle so anything can happen. Just as far as "good-to-great team" vs. "terrible team" matches go this one seems really likely for an "upset" (even though they're both 4-7!)
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
crunchwrap have you also been watching Vince Young
somewhat. i was amazed by how far his dropbacks are. he runs like 12 yds backward sometimes! he at least had 400 something yds of passing on the pats right? not that it's that huge an accomplishment
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
p sure seattle is gonna win that one
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
we gonna start a new thread for sunday?
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
they were playing from behind most of the game. i didn't see all of it but i did see his game vs. the Giants and he looked downright Tebow-esque (except he was actually getting picked off!)
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
i thought he looked okay in the giants game -- he made a few bad throws, basically he looked like a guy that hadn't played football in over a year
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sorta taking this route w/ caleb hanie too, but unless a back up is just obviously bad on a tyler palko level i think ppl need to give him like 3 games at least to make a judgment on his ability to qb the team forward.
like the first 2.5 games or so of matt moore's tenure this year, i seriously thought he was one of the worst quarterbacks i've ever seen in my entire life. the jets game on monday night he was missing receivers that were literally open by 15 yards.
but now he's prob one of the top 15 or 20 qbs in the nfl, at least at the moment. most of these guys haven't played a live nfl regular season game for like over a year, and as the season ramps up they barely even take meaningful snaps in practice. there's probably a big adjustment period, for most.
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp yea lotsa checkdowns or designed screens/outs that most anyone could complete but still he deserves a modicum of credit for not being tyler palko or whomever
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 1 December 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah i'm amazed at how far matt more has come--he's thrown some beautiful balls in his last couple games.
― cad, Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
i actually looked up matt moore's CAR record at the wknd because i remembered him as a total bust and he has played so well recently, but i guess he had p decent numbers thru 7 games in 2009: 61% comp, 7.6y avg, 8td/2int
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
you have to also consider that Carolina's recieving core is terrible - it's amazing what Cam is doing with basically just Steve Smith as an above-average WR
Caleb Hanie looked much better than Palko - his second half was okay after a disasterous first. the problem for the Bears is that they can't really afford any more "we would have won this if we had Cutler" games b/c the Lions are on their tail for the WC and there's probably not room for both
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
i'm glad that the past few weeks have given us some clarity in the "which back ups are actually TERRIBLE" discussion from a few weeks back
palko might be my #2 worst, after brunell
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
lets see who the Texans start this week
i'm really feeling for them. as crazy as it is I think they need to call old #4. they are ranked near the top in nearly every metric but you can't succeed with TJ Yates
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
well t.j yates will probably suck, but he's third string, so it's kind of a whole different stratosphere
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
i was talking w/ a friend last week or so about how irresponsible it is for the jets to have brunell as a back up -- they're a team trying hard for a playoff spot and if sanchez gets hurt (and he's miraculously never missed time in the nfl, right?) that team is FUCKED cuz they don't even run the ball this year
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
vince sucks btw
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
tbh i thought yates looked raw but not without some promise. a week of first team reps might make all the difference
― horseshoe loves tom brady, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
the rest of their schedule is: atl, @ cin, car, @ ind, ten
that's really manageable
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
is Brunell really that much of a step down from Mark freakin Sanchez?
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure if brunell can throw the ball 40 yards
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
AdamSchefter Adam SchefterFiled to ESPN: Vikings plan to release Donovan McNabb today, according to a league source.
the texans GM is taking a leerjet to minneosta right now, right?
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
wouldnt someone w/ a worse record claim him 2 fuck over houston? thats how it works right?
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
oh, true
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
I think Lovie likes Hanie, so I don't see Chicago going after him. Philly definitely won't have him back. As mentioned upthread, Dolphins are in an okay place with Moore. He may very well fall to Houston.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
tenn especially or any of hte afc 6-5 or 7-4 teams would be dumb not to claim him just 2 block houston
― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Good point.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
and waste what, like 2-3 mill in salary?
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
the cowboys claimed orton
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
lol I forgot Donny McNabb still was in the league, he's definitely looking like the only option for Houston atm
― Rolo Tony, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
McNabb at Houston as a "game manager" could get them out of the first round.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
btw guys i just wanna float this out there: what if DENVER makes the PLAYOFFS and TEBOWTEBOWTEBOWTEBOWTEBOW and then the streak finally breaks and he's utterly demolished by like, say, the steelers and there's a whole amazing painful offseason where they have to "seriously assess the future". Wouldn't that be way better than them just barely missing the playoffs? Wouldn't you totally be willing to not see the Raiders make the playoffs just so that would happen? I am thinkingit might be
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
rolando mcclain arrested in alabama on gun & other charges
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
No!!!! Rolandooooooooo!!!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
second time he's been arrested in alabama on gun charges
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
you mean, so we can see Tebow next season and beyond? hell yeah
― Rolo Tony, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
McClain arrest photo:
https://p.twimg.com/AfnSBCQCIAAIc_D.jpg
allegedly held gun to victim's head, then fired it next to their ear. These are misdemeanors in alabama.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't you totally be willing to not see the Raiders make the playoffs just so that would happen? I am thinkingit might be
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, December 1, 2011 10:21 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
no no no no no no no no non on onoiugpiuqeitu
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think it would be awesome just to see the Tebow haters explode
― Rolo Tony, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
that photo is not real
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur Hard as it is to believe, pic of McClain smiling getting arrested not photoshopped. It's on front page of Decatur Daily. Photog John Goodbey1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
i know they basically have no owner over in oakland, but the fuck
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
if ndamukong suh got 2 games for stepping on some guy's bicep, rolando mcclain deserves, what, 200 games for putting a loaded gun to someone's head?
― v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
it's the NFL, man.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
as a Raiders fan I'm mostly just amused because McClain has been a huge bust.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
one thing I love about the NFL is you can really do almost anything and fans, GMs don't really care as long as you can play. I wish this attitude extended to stuff like end zone dances though.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
the celebration penalty is just about the stupidest thing in all of pro sports
― Rolo Tony, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
billromanowski Bill Romanowski Rolando McClain belongs in jail for stealing from the Raiders this year. Hasn't pissed a drop for what he is being paid.39 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link