Watercooler Sub Zero: Ice Capades

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Vancouver does rule. Harvard, although the older and preferred system, suffers from the disadvantage that if Smith & Jones wrote a huge corpus of work during 2005 and the author of the paper or book wants to cite several of these works, then you then have to employ (Smith & Jones, 2005a), (Smith & Jones, 2005b), ect ect. And what if there are two A. Smiths and you want to quote both of them???

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

We had to use the Harvard style at university, and no footnotes at all. If you studied history, though, you had to put your references in footnotes.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

the one thing that you can guarantee is that authors will totally ignore the link on yr website that says INSTRUCTIONS TO AUTHORS. Still, if they didn't then the people who write text manipulation software for automatically converting Harvard to Vancouver or vice versa would be out of a job.

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha ha!

Every year at work the company buys loads of white stressballs and we have a "snowball fight" in the office. It's organised fun of the worse kind, but still. The safety email that's just been sent out liberally made use of the phrase "snowballing", which I remember from Clerks. It casts the whole safety notice into a new light . . .

Safety points to note:

Snowballing is a voluntary exercise, so join in at your own risk.

Have a quick warm up before going from a period of sedentary work to sudden activity. We don't want anyone to hurt their shoulders and retaliation won't be possible if you are out of the game!

Please be careful snowballing around people who are wearing glasses.

Have respect for those who don't wish to participate.

Water and electricity don't mix so remove drinks, etc from the desk before the games begin.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea what the Clerks definition of "snowballing" is. Sigh.

Why am I feeling so rub today? I just feel more and more down as the day goes on. It's not normal Monday blues.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Here is the link, SFW if you don't have a computer checking naughty words: http://www.answers.com/topic/snowballing

I feel terrible today. The weather's not helping either, cold and wet and grey.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

don't worry Johnney, pub soon!

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Lack of crush is definitely up there. The bad, negative side of the happy upswing of crushing. When it wears off, and the world seems like a cold, grey place again.

And the reality of no more band sinking in. It's hard to get my head around. The amount of email that used to go back and forth every day, OK, it was a big hard to handle at times, but at least it made me feel 1) like I was important and 2) like I actually had friends. Now no one writes me at all any more. And it just reinforces that feeling of "Oh, we weren't actually friends. You just hung around me because of what I could *do* for you. And now I'm not *doing* anything for you any more, you have no reason to talk to me."

Which is a horrible feeling.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been feeling awful sleepy the past few days - was in bed to sleep at half-eight on Saturday night, and half-nine Sunday.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet FP knows.

damn x-posts

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And I used tofu instead of paneer in my curry this week because my mum cannot eat cheese and it is rubbish - the tofu has not held together and has crumbled. It wasn't very nice tofu to start with. English tofu SUCKS.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, say hi to your mom for me!

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Will do.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

And now for a photo that totally makes you want to kill yourself.

Just.

Fucking.

Great.

All you former friends. Love each other. Hate you.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I've just realised that barely a single person has come down to my office today. I've hardly even spoken to The Goth.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

no photo, Kate. anyway, if that's the case, then they never were your friends, so you should glad to be rid of them. (And the farther you get from Bumlove, the better, no?)

So I just (finally) signed a lease on a new apartment. Of course, it's so expensive that it means my "plans" of buying next year have gotten noticeably less realistic, but the view! The View!

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't post the photo, and it was deleted from the account anyway.

I still feel like I've been slapped in the face. You. Are. Not. Part. Of. Us. Look at how happy we are without you.

I don't care if I'm reading too much into one photo, but it's not just one photo, is it?

I don't know understand how to "have friends". I don't understand how to keep friends. I don't understand any of this. It makes me want to become a recluse and never talk to anyone again, never try to do anything again. If my mum weren't here, I'd probably be contemplating suicide again, as a defiant final FUCK YOU to the world.

I wish I knew how to just give up.

Well, at least I don't have to worry about "not talking about it" for fear of offending my "friends" if I don't have any, any more.

No matter how much I hate anyone else, I hate myself most of all. So how can I blame anyone else for hating me?

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

My mom is on about all 'liberals' are stupid, because they're liberals. I asked her to define liberal - did she mean X or Y - but she yelled. Which avoids an answer, but there you go. Oh, and Mexicans are ruining the country. I am so tempted to ask her if she's been eating Bill O'Reilly's knob cheese off Ritz crackers. If you hear screaming from MN in the next day or so, you know why.

Kate, remember, it's always going to be rough when people you know get together and don't include you or seem to have forgotten that you exist when planning socially. Especially when there are certain past friendship or relationship issues involved that they appear to be oblivious to, or just way too egocentric about (in your opinion) because they are committing the grave sin of disrespect or omission. It is easier said than done to ignore.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Suzy, you are projecting your situation onto mine, and they are not the same, thank you.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The answer is... just let go.

Let them go.

You cannot force these things. You cannot force people to remain friends with you.

(It just feeds the fear that actually, yeah, I am fundamentally just an asshole. And I am, fundamentally, just unable to carry on normal human relationships. I have been going through the motions for a long time, doing the things that I think are "normal" for friendships, but they just aren't working, and other people can tell.)

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel so stupid.

:-(

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, your projection comments are inappropriate under the circumstances.

Otherwise please please please be kinder to yourself. You are not an asshole, whatever you think.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know why I'm reacting to this *so* badly. I guess I'm not as "over" this breakup as I thought I was.

Band breakups are a lot like romantic breakups - sometimes even harder for me, I guess, because it involves work as well as emotions.

I thought I was walking away just "Phew! Everything's OK now!" when obviously I've still not dealt with the issues which broke up the band in the first place.

I am being an asshole at the moment. I'm being a totally self indulgent, selfish, not giving a shit about anyone else asshole. That's how people who are in pain behave. The pain will go. It's just unrealistic to expect it to go so soon.

masonic boom (kate), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Good analogy!

I've got another friend in pain due to a deep personal loss and it's never been so hard to be her friend as it is right now. I am optinistic that things will get better. In both cases you have lives filled with structure and work and friends beyond the relationship/tight circle you've left, so hang onto that.

suzy artskooldisko (suzy artskooldisko), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Tuesday, December 19. The drama continues here on the Watercooler...

Morning all.

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Interior shots sometime next week, Ed, I move in on Saturday - there will be some definite Ikea elements but otherwise it's more like standard iffy-Euro-renovation.

Although I've been meaning to post some of the last two places I've stayed, both of which are quite... "instructive," I think. People ask often. I'll try to get around to it before Xmas.

substitute, mitya for him (mitya), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Standard Moscow Gangster proof door etc.?

Like the three sister, i want to go to Moscow. (Again)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning, you lot. It's our department Christmas lunch today - hopefully, because last year's ended up being a bit of a damp squib.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi all. You going anywhere nice for your xmas lunch? We're off to the Kite Inn tomorrow lunchtime for beer and pie!

I was up doing favours all last night (not half as much fun as it sounds) and am the world's sleepiest man. I think I'm gonna have a Tomcatnap at lunch, assuming I last that long.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The local chinese buffet, I think.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the Kite on Mill Street Johnney? Near the station? Or is there another one?

I didn't realise there were different CATegories of catnap!

because last year's ended up being a bit of a damp squib.

I was reading somewhere how somebody described something as being "a damp squid". Surely for a squid being damp is a very good thing!

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless it is a SPACE SQUID, of course.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The mild green hairy lipped squid.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure Mark, I think it's down the botley road somewhere? I guess that would be near the station. noen of us have been there before, is it nice?

I'm having a TomCatnap in honour of the dead cartoonist.

(CJ, I don't know whether to laugh or cry)

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

surely that would be a Top Cat Nap???

yes, down the Botley Road. Very close to the Westgate Hotel. Standard Greene King fare pubwise, although I've never eaten there. Interesting choice.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight! It is "some greek place that Chris Tarrant goes to"

News tomorrow.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gbstamps.com/machins/images/m_L1_engr_dec_redrw_lg.jpg

What's That?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"A stamp Quid"

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Has the Wetgate Hotel lost any more letters since last I looked?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I smoked my second cigarette. Last night, after a bit of a fight, I had one and it tasted FANTASTIC. Today less so, thankfully, due to another headache. So I guess I'll remain a non-smoker. Or a VERY casual smoker.

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

they've found replacements, Marcello.

and I no don't mean

http://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/ttpromo/mats8505.jpeg

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Now there's sleeping on a railway line, which got that bloke 6 months...

and there's moving a sofabed on!

M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Get off my thread, Marcello. I'm serious. You are not welcome here, and you know it. Any further posting will be considered an act of aggression.

Freaking HR department. I've said already I am not signing any contract that does not have my flexitime written into it. Got the contract this morning. No flexitime. I'm considering going on strike until I get a proper contract.

And my mum has given herself food poisoning. Eating dodgy sausages at dodgy takeaways that I told her not to go to. Sigh.

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Give the guy a chance, he hasn't said anything remotely offensive.

Never thought that yr mother would go to dodgy takeaways. Still, hope she gets over it soon.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I'm sorry, given the history between us, he's not getting any more chances from me.

I'm in a fucking fowl mood now. Been teetering on the edge of it, but headache, sinus congestion, hacking cough and the cold I had last week has just decided to settle and make my life a misery. :-(

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm here like a little shower of shit to darken all your days.

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

In the interests of balance:

http://www.t-chest.co.uk/2005/images/kids_sunshine.gif

I have been signed off work for a week with a viral infection. Boo. (not that I want to go into work, but I would kind of like to be paid since I am temping, the office is shut for two weeks, then I'm only back three days before I go on holiday. This pretty much equates to three days pay to last me a month. Just as well I haven't wasted lots of money on Christmas presents, eh?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh, that's awful, Ailsa. Viral infections are teh suck. Do you have no holiday time acrued? I remember I built up some, even when I was a temp. At least you can stay home in bed and get some rest and maybe get well.

I feel like I have to just keep going until I collapse. :-(

masonic boom (kate), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Quick! Cheer Kaet up!

*gis for pointy noses*

tada!

warning: GROSS

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link


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