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yeah i probably agree

but i'm not sure if they'll get him this season

if i'm the hornets/the nba idk if i'd want rondo back -- you have to have a very specific team around him (i.e. one that can convert all is passes into assists, bcuz he's not really scoring)

btw did you guys hear the turkish team d-will played for RETIRED HIS JERSEY last night?

xp right

thought that was so dope

touched by the hand of god

is there a definitive list of all the players who can't come back this season. I mean the entirety of the denver nuggets, but who else?

The Nugs, and Aaron Brooks

That's about it.

idk i don't really blame him, their future doesn't look great beyond the next couple years and who knows how long doc'll want to coach

he'd make more sense in the celtics current system than westbrook, mostly due to his defense - although they do need another player who can create (and make) his own shot

― k3vin k., Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

doc signed a 5-year extension so there should be no reason he wouldn't be there as long as paul.

oh ok i forgot he signed an extension, i thought this was his last year on contract for some reason

still celtics will be a middling team in 3-4 years probs

WTF we haven't signed nene yet?

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biggest news basically

so, there's news.

• deron williams will not sign an extension of his contract with the nets. doesn't matter what they do to bolster the team. he might re-sign with them, i guess, but not now. radically changed what nets have to offer to someone who must be persuaded to sign a long-term extension following a sign-and-trade (i.e., dwight howard)

• mike miller had hernia surgery. so it's basically certain he'll be amnestied by the heat. it also means he isn't going to be useful in a trade package (which is what's been suggested (him and haslem for nene).

• nene apparently is going to get a max-contract from someone? if that's so, and if he wants that over championships, he'll be playing for a mid-level team (despite the fact that he's said he wants to play for either miami or dallas, and win titles).

More than a year and a half after his last surgery and the latest estimate is that Greg Oden will be ready to play (maybe) in January. Can't wait to see how his free-agency goes.

at this point he's a near minimum-contract guy, i think.

and here it is: CP3 determined to play for NYK

gahhh

nooo cp3 don't make me hate u

wowwwwwwwwwww

honestly i'm not sure i can hate a knicks team with cp3, melo & amare -- amare is prob my favorite athlete right now behind THE REAL BLACK MAMBA (de'anthony thomas)

i'm going to have to summon up all of my intense hatred of new york sports fans to pull that one off

now if nene could just similarly force his way to the heat . . .

oh i'll be able to hate them just fine ('cept for a'mare, obv.).

interesting eastern-conference. NYK -- Heat rivalry is back.

is it even possible for the knicks to pull this off?

i liked the heat-knicks rivalry renewal a lot more when it was amare + homegrown knicks vs the monolothic heat transformer -- there's no narrative to a knicks-heat superstar rivalry

well, sure there is. two powerhouse, star-heavy teams that represent the "new" NBA of player-driven rosters.

Paul has reached out to Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard(notes) recently, encouraging Howard to find a way for the two to play together, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

apparently chris paul took up crack during the lock out. what a shame.

i should've said that there's no interesting narrative

is it even possible for the knicks to pull this off?

― v-shasty, Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it won't be in two years but i bet it is right now. scary.

btw there is no way that this is happening unless the knicks are able to grind the entire league basically to a halt by trying to put a three-way deal over on every single team in the league

the difference between this and the amare sitaution as it pertains to the knicks is that the knicks truly have nothing left to trade. with melo the hornets were "shopping for a better offer" but they still had a pretty good thing in their pocket w/ the knicks role player sampler that they ended up taking.

truly i can't forsee anyway that the knicks could pull off a trade for cp3 unless the hornets just flush their entire franchise down the toilet by taking... who? landry jones, iman shumpert and non-lottery picks from now until 2020?

by amare i mean carmelo obv

amd also obv nuggets not hornets

Nets can offer D Will a 5th year and more than anyone else in free agency. An extension would be 4 years, $78 million ; FA signing with any team but Nets 4 years, $75 million; FA with Nets 5 years, $100 million. It's a no-brainer not to extend.

I still expect him to resign with the Nets as $25 million is not to be sneezed at.

yeah i think this is mostly a formality. i think BIG PROK will in the d will gamble.

plus if he's gonna be on the move AFTER howard and chris paul, idk what team is gonna be left for him.

So if Paul really wants to go to New York, he can go -- as long as he's willing to give up, at a minimum, forty million dollars to do it. (The same, incidentally, applies for Deron Williams or Dwight Howard.)

I have no idea how super teams are possible with this new cba unless the owner wants to pay a jillion dollars in luxury tax?

i guess dolan might, but good lord

it's funny how much the decision will hang over lebron. if he had just done everything the same minus that, he would've been able to stand in pretty stark contrast to these idiots who bring the entire league to a standstill trying to get to only one team

I have no idea how super teams are possible with this new cba unless the owner wants to pay a jillion dollars in luxury tax?

there's actually a hard cap, tho no-one's calling it that. i think it's fixed at roughly 74.5M.

WallaceNBA_ESPN Michael Wallace -- Keeping my fingers crossed this CP3 'MeloDrama' doesn't lead to owners backing off that handshake CBA deal.

chris paul poised here to potentially become history's greatest monster.

and why would it?

THAT IS AN UNUSUAL INTERVIEW QUESTION AND IT IS UNCALLED-FOR.

just trust me that chris paul is about to become history's greatest monster.

if he does form a nyk superteam junior varsity squad I will agree with you

i like the notion that the NYK would be the "junior-varsity" of superteams.

certainly fitting, since they -- organizationally -- are a total clusterscrew, which benefits only because players want to play in NYC.

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