J.R. Smith has literally been shanghaied away for the foreshortened 2011-2012 NBA season: rolling ILH sandbox thread

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is CP3 an upgrade over rondo? both are great.

cp3 is a pretty significant upgrade over rondo, as much as i love rondo - he's probably the second-best defensive 1 in the game (to rondo) and on offense can do anything rondo can do but better

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:44 (ten years ago) link

wow so many rondos in that post

word is cp3 would not sign an extension with the Cs anyway, so that deal is probably done

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:45 (ten years ago) link

i think everyone is speculating sign + trade so he can get more cash

i have no idea why he wouldn't want to go there -- i guess they're old but they're one of the best run orgs in the business. unless he really wants to play for the clippers.

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:50 (ten years ago) link

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v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:56 (ten years ago) link

idk i don't really blame him, their future doesn't look great beyond the next couple years and who knows how long doc'll want to coach

he'd make more sense in the celtics current system than westbrook, mostly due to his defense - although they do need another player who can create (and make) his own shot

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:57 (ten years ago) link

paul would assassinate people on this year's celtics -- they already get such an insane amount of open shots. if they got him i think they'd be the favorites in the east.

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:58 (ten years ago) link

yeah i probably agree

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:00 (ten years ago) link

but i'm not sure if they'll get him this season

if i'm the hornets/the nba idk if i'd want rondo back -- you have to have a very specific team around him (i.e. one that can convert all is passes into assists, bcuz he's not really scoring)

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:01 (ten years ago) link

btw did you guys hear the turkish team d-will played for RETIRED HIS JERSEY last night?

xp right

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:02 (ten years ago) link

thought that was so dope

clay, Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:06 (ten years ago) link

touched by the hand of god

dayo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:07 (ten years ago) link

is there a definitive list of all the players who can't come back this season. I mean the entirety of the denver nuggets, but who else?

dayo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:08 (ten years ago) link

The Nugs, and Aaron Brooks

That's about it.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:23 (ten years ago) link

idk i don't really blame him, their future doesn't look great beyond the next couple years and who knows how long doc'll want to coach

he'd make more sense in the celtics current system than westbrook, mostly due to his defense - although they do need another player who can create (and make) his own shot

― k3vin k., Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

doc signed a 5-year extension so there should be no reason he wouldn't be there as long as paul.

cad, Thursday, 1 December 2011 01:16 (ten years ago) link

oh ok i forgot he signed an extension, i thought this was his last year on contract for some reason

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 03:50 (ten years ago) link

still celtics will be a middling team in 3-4 years probs

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 03:51 (ten years ago) link

WTF we haven't signed nene yet?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 03:57 (ten years ago) link

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k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2011 05:59 (ten years ago) link

biggest news basically

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 06:08 (ten years ago) link

so, there's news.

  • mike miller had hernia surgery. so it's basically certain he'll be amnestied by the heat. it also means he isn't going to be useful in a trade package (which is what's been suggested (him and haslem for nene).
  • nene apparently is going to get a max-contract from someone? if that's so, and if he wants that over championships, he'll be playing for a mid-level team (despite the fact that he's said he wants to play for either miami or dallas, and win titles).

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:54 (ten years ago) link

More than a year and a half after his last surgery and the latest estimate is that Greg Oden will be ready to play (maybe) in January. Can't wait to see how his free-agency goes.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:06 (ten years ago) link

at this point he's a near minimum-contract guy, i think.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:29 (ten years ago) link

and here it is: CP3 determined to play for NYK

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:32 (ten years ago) link

gahhh

moullet, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:34 (ten years ago) link

nooo cp3 don't make me hate u

cad, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:34 (ten years ago) link

wowwwwwwwwwww

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:34 (ten years ago) link

honestly i'm not sure i can hate a knicks team with cp3, melo & amare -- amare is prob my favorite athlete right now behind THE REAL BLACK MAMBA (de'anthony thomas)

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:35 (ten years ago) link

i'm going to have to summon up all of my intense hatred of new york sports fans to pull that one off

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:35 (ten years ago) link

now if nene could just similarly force his way to the heat . . .

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:36 (ten years ago) link

oh i'll be able to hate them just fine ('cept for a'mare, obv.).

interesting eastern-conference. NYK -- Heat rivalry is back.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:36 (ten years ago) link

is it even possible for the knicks to pull this off?

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:39 (ten years ago) link

i liked the heat-knicks rivalry renewal a lot more when it was amare + homegrown knicks vs the monolothic heat transformer -- there's no narrative to a knicks-heat superstar rivalry

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:42 (ten years ago) link

well, sure there is. two powerhouse, star-heavy teams that represent the "new" NBA of player-driven rosters.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:44 (ten years ago) link

Paul has reached out to Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard(notes) recently, encouraging Howard to find a way for the two to play together, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

apparently chris paul took up crack during the lock out. what a shame.

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:45 (ten years ago) link

i should've said that there's no interesting narrative

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:46 (ten years ago) link

is it even possible for the knicks to pull this off?

― v-shasty, Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it won't be in two years but i bet it is right now. scary.

cad, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:46 (ten years ago) link

btw there is no way that this is happening unless the knicks are able to grind the entire league basically to a halt by trying to put a three-way deal over on every single team in the league

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:46 (ten years ago) link

the difference between this and the amare sitaution as it pertains to the knicks is that the knicks truly have nothing left to trade. with melo the hornets were "shopping for a better offer" but they still had a pretty good thing in their pocket w/ the knicks role player sampler that they ended up taking.

truly i can't forsee anyway that the knicks could pull off a trade for cp3 unless the hornets just flush their entire franchise down the toilet by taking... who? landry jones, iman shumpert and non-lottery picks from now until 2020?

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:48 (ten years ago) link

by amare i mean carmelo obv

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:48 (ten years ago) link

amd also obv nuggets not hornets

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:49 (ten years ago) link

Nets can offer D Will a 5th year and more than anyone else in free agency. An extension would be 4 years, $78 million ; FA signing with any team but Nets 4 years, $75 million; FA with Nets 5 years, $100 million. It's a no-brainer not to extend.

I still expect him to resign with the Nets as $25 million is not to be sneezed at.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:07 (ten years ago) link

yeah i think this is mostly a formality. i think BIG PROK will in the d will gamble.

plus if he's gonna be on the move AFTER howard and chris paul, idk what team is gonna be left for him.

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:12 (ten years ago) link

So if Paul really wants to go to New York, he can go -- as long as he's willing to give up, at a minimum, forty million dollars to do it. (The same, incidentally, applies for Deron Williams or Dwight Howard.)

moullet, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:20 (ten years ago) link

I have no idea how super teams are possible with this new cba unless the owner wants to pay a jillion dollars in luxury tax?

mayor jingleberriez, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:23 (ten years ago) link

i guess dolan might, but good lord

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:24 (ten years ago) link

it's funny how much the decision will hang over lebron. if he had just done everything the same minus that, he would've been able to stand in pretty stark contrast to these idiots who bring the entire league to a standstill trying to get to only one team

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:27 (ten years ago) link

I have no idea how super teams are possible with this new cba unless the owner wants to pay a jillion dollars in luxury tax?

there's actually a hard cap, tho no-one's calling it that. i think it's fixed at roughly 74.5M.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:41 (ten years ago) link

WallaceNBA_ESPN Michael Wallace -- Keeping my fingers crossed this CP3 'MeloDrama' doesn't lead to owners backing off that handshake CBA deal.

chris paul poised here to potentially become history's greatest monster.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:19 (ten years ago) link

and why would it?

mayor jingleberriez, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:28 (ten years ago) link

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k3vin k., Monday, 2 January 2012 04:12 (ten years ago) link


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