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yah, i am now

important local news imo

Been reading up, and apparently fatigue does indeed have an impact on the damage done by even the most (seemingly) innocuous of challenges.

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i lold.

Thank God we don't have to listen to Bruce's faux-exasperated whinging about refereeing decisions in every single post match interview... for a while at least, he's the sort who always ends up with a job even tho he is shit and has never achieved anything. Wolves manager by the end of the season?

good shout, tho if i had to be i'd say villa

Pardew has a bad couple matches, ol' Ashley trolls the fans once more.

promise that i will refuse to watch Wolves so much as warm up for any length of time they spend with Bruce in charge

warm up? None of that new age nonsense from a steve bruce team.

His teams warm up by pulling pained what-have-we-done-to-deserve-this expressions, shrugging shoulders, sighing deeply etc

There were more questions, like: “One thing you couldn’t live without?”

“My kids,” replied Speed. “I’ve got two at 14 and 12.”

The final question was: ‘What item do you cherish most?’ Sometimes footballers go onto auto-pilot in interviews. They talk clichés, niceties and nonsense. Speed paused for a good 30 seconds.

“Certainly nothing material,” he replied. “I don’t even know where my championship medal is from Leeds. So I’d say family. We’re an item and they mean everything to me.”

Don't know if this was linked yet, but FourFourTwo remembering Gary Speed

:-/

God, yeah. You can see how depression must be a thing for some ex-players, losing an all-encompassing way-of-life and with not much to look forward to, but his circumstances don't seem like that at all.

tho that's really not how depression works either tbf

I think it can be, but obviously that's not all there is to it. It's been recognised as a post-career thing in cricket for ages.

yeah but that's just upper-class preciousness tbf

Very fair

Given his recent Wales record and the supposed bond with his team, I found his suicide very puzzling.

I think everybody does

As Darragh said, that's not how depression works. More to life than football.

let's not be hasty

lucas out for the season

*screams*
*bangs head on desk repeatedly*

yup, great idea playing him so soon after city. him, reina, enrique and henderson shouldn't have been anywhere near stamford bridge on tuesday.

not like he got subbed off after an hour either

stupid him starting anyway, but he should've been off as soon as that second goal went in. really angry about this.

i'd

and i hasten to say this isn't fight-picking

imagine that, having spent several gdp's on central midfielders, if lfc are that badly off because one is out injured, dalglish might have some explaining to do.

Bruce for Liverpool

am i missing the point completely? scientific research has shown that the body is more susceptible to all injuries if you do not get sufficient rest. there is no way lucas should have been playing on tuesday. correct? so why is every liverpool fan on t'internet refusing to acknowledge that it was daft to play him. am i missing something?

ha, no, not quite to that stage as yet.

xp

I dunno chris, a game on sunday, a game on tuesday, lyfe man y'know?

Was it an impact injury or did it just go?

he bumped into a chelsea player, pretty innocuous.

looked like impact with mata. optimal rest time is supposed to be 72 hours isn't it? now i aint claiming to be an expert, but playing someone who hasn't had a summer's rest as often as we've been playing him, and then playing him twice in 3 days is surely asking for trouble? gah.

it's about minimising the risk

but i kinda side with chris on this. lucas, pepe, and suarez are our 3 most important players by far and lucas was immense against City.

I mean dalglish can't have it both ways, railing against the short period between games saying he'd have no alternative but to play kids cos of the short recovery period, then starting with lucas and leaving him on for 80+ mins. He was obviously taking the chance that lucas could have 6 days rest before we played again on monday, but, well..

but it still wasn't a huge risk, tbf- it hardly happens the whole time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15985420

A blind day for British football.

tbf when i watched the highlights i only knew the score, not that lucas had been taken off, and when they went through the teams at the start mentioning the changes and lucas appered on the team sheet i did think 'really?' but i wasn't outraged at the time or anything.

I am more sad than angry I think. I save my anger for every time I watch Milan and Aquilani plays well, which is more often than not ;)
xp

why is every liverpool fan on t'internet refusing to acknowledge that it was daft to play him. am i missing something?

Because his manager is Kenny Dalglish perhaps? Hodgson would probably have been lynched by now.

but it still wasn't a huge risk, tbf- it hardly happens the whole time

It was though. He hasn't had a rest all summer, he played all the previous rounds, and he hasn't been rotated. He's been managed terribly. The science is pretty clear.

xp. is exactly my thinking. i wouldn't dare utter it on an lfc forum though.

he bumped into a chelsea player, pretty innocuous.

you said it yourself mate. innocuous. yet he's out for the rest of the season.

If Terry is found guilty, he could lose the England captaincy

Argh! Why is this reported as if it's the most serious consequence of the whole affair? John Terry may really care about the armband, but the world in general does not.

But he's really proud of wearing that blind armband

LOL

.....

chris is right about lucas

btw, pandemic, re. 'let's not be hasty' - i don't know if that was a direct response to me (no problem if it was), but i just wanna say that i didn't mean my comment to sound as if i was theorising about what may or may not have been the cause, if that's how it came across - i probably should have worded it better. just pointing out that i can completely understand how shit can happen despite everything appearing to be fine - if that makes sense. it's really not for me to say why it happened, and i hope i didn't come across as if i know it all. it's just incredibly sad isn't it.

Peter Reid was 4th in the Fifa World Soccer player of the year award 1985 behind only Michel Platini, Preban Elkjaer & Diego Maradona.