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temperature check on a proposal that we rename the action committee "the faction committee"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

all told almost 300 arrests in LA last night/this morning

silvana mangano, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

The Declaration of Occupy DC, consented to tonight. Tomorrow is our two month anniversary.

The Declaration Committee, rightfully, is out drinking beers together.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link

cough

Prelude thread to the the thread about doing an ilx protest record

cough

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

Corporate interests threaten life on Earth by extracting and burning fossil fuels and resisting the necessary transition to renewable energy. Their drilling, mining, clear-cutting, overfishing, and factory farming destroys the land, jeopardizes our food and water, and poisons the soil with near impunity. They privilege polluters over people by subsidizing fossil fuels, blocking investments in clean energy and efficient transportation, and hiding environmental destruction from public oversight.

yessssssssssssssss.

one of the big things i still dont understand is whoever takes the first step and does it right will be loved as a massive job creator, revolutionise industry and have potential to make themselves a huge amount of money getting ahead of a market we are going to need for the next forever.

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

really have seen nothing about Zuccotti Park in the last 10 days in the NYC media, which is distressing. They need to reappear in the headlines next week.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

Bloombagg calls the NYPD "my own army."

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/01/mayor_bloombergs_army/singleton/

Not even bothering to deny this shit anymore....

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

there's nothing particularly interesting to report on @ zuccotti

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

well, it'd be a good idea for a march or something else to make thing interesting (I guess this housing thing on the 6th might fill the bill).

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

there are marches every day, most just don't attract many people or much attention. tbh I think hardcore occupiers are just bogged down w/ logistics stuff right now. maybe there's gonna be a sustainable way to stick around and get press - there is a decent amount of money left (tho it's not gonna rain in at the same rate) and already a rented office. will there be anything as large as the times sq rally in the future? I'd bet on no, but it's worth noting that all the huge rallies had v. v. heavy union involvement = top-down planning.

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

so if the unions wanted to do more big events w/ the OWS stamp of approval (which anyone can really grab) that's a possibility for coming months

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/12/1/occupy-goldman-recruiting/

Instead, the bank was simply one actor out of many, and certainly doesn’t fit the role of super villain as well as the Occupy Harvard folks imagine it does. For example, an excellent argument could be made that the millions of Americans who took on mortgages beyond their means are equally responsible as a group for the financial meltdown. Certainly, the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act also figures prominently in our nation’s pre-crisis financial instability. It would be convenient if we could easily paint Goldman Sachs as the evil enemy of the 99 percent, but it’s more complicated than that.

someone please burn this school down

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

iatee/hoos/whoever - how are you guys coping w/ the fact that winter be coming/has come? living in a tent must suck if/when the cold weather really hits.

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

people aren't living in tents in ny anymore because zuccotti was cleared out by bloomberg. I think a lot of people have gone home, others are staying at churches + other random places. there's been a relative warm-weather spell lately but I'd be surprised if there's anyone sleeping outside by jan.

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

so y'all are just occupying in spirit?

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

during business hours

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

more and more these last couple of weeks i've been hearing the words "occupy 2.0," people asking "what do we do next?"

i'm still pushing for us to basically

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VE%2BcqFW4L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

^ top down organization

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

yes and no: like the ezln & their good government communities, there's a tension at play when there's a military command structure for a force designed to protect a group of non-hierarchical community-run initiatives, but as the hilliard book makes clear, these were programs run by the people themselves.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

and i mean its basically a cookbook in how to make this shit happen--our committees can do this.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I think ows is so different from previous movements, mostly due to the media+internet, that it's dangerous to compare it to / model it on anything. and I think if ows 2.0 is gonna be a success, it's gonna have to be radically different in the same way.

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

imo that prob suggests something that 'exists' online more than irl but remains capable of mobilizing and achieving things w/ tangible end results

iatee, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

plus lotsa Panthers got shot

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

and put on trial

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

it's dangerous to compare it to / model it on anything

Looking for analogies from the past as a guide is just plain smart, if it is done well. But you can't just stop once you've identified the commonalities; you have to go on and identify the differences and what they mean in terms of different opportunities and directions. Slavish adherence to past experience just repeats old mistakes and adds new ones.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

that Hilliard book is dope btw

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N1g3Xps68g&

my old boss's boss's boss's boss

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message. "They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism."

SUCCESS

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol at the 'wonderful distribution' amongst mexican drug cartels.

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

that list is so gross

rayuela, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

i like how "one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message"'s answer to "people are starting to dislike this word" is once again "quick replace it with 'freedom'!" can i get paid to do this too pls

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

i love that it got out though, it's like getting a seminar in lightsaber fighting from darth vader

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

did i really just say that

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

is it possible Luntz is frontin'? where was that said?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington. You should occupy the White House because it's the policies over the past few years that have created this problem."

lol, THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT IS DOING THIS ALREADY!

superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

also "hmmm"

Never translate German (schlump), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol, THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT IS DOING THIS ALREADY!

― superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:40 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

dude with an "#occupyDC" column in tweetdeck i CAN NOT TELL YOU how often i see this line

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

is it possible Luntz is frontin'? where was that said?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:36 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

The Republican Governors Association met this week in Florida to give GOP state executives a chance to rejuvenate, strategize and team-build. But during a plenary session on Wednesday, one question kept coming up: How can Republicans do a better job of talking about Occupy Wall Street?
"I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

I doubt Luntz is fronting otoh is he really stupid enough to let the press in on such a seminar without thinking about how it will play...? (ans: maybe)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Well I've always wondered abt him bc he does those bits in the Colbert report. This list looks like the outcomes of the focus groups he does with Colbert.

I feel like he's basically saying that it doesn't matter if we see behind the curtain because that's how effective it is to say "careers" instead of "jobs"

rayuela, Thursday, 1 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

occupy boston: sonned over a sink beef?

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 2 December 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

they good ppl

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 2 December 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

WeHo LGBTs marching Saturday

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/12/saturday-weho-lgbt-99-march.html

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

24hr event apparently underway in times square

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/384928_2741065892319_1427583604_2990990_1872315940_n.jpg

Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Friday, 2 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

hunger strike across the street from my office. Guess I won't eat my lunch on the benches facing these guys.

http://occupywallst.org/article/ows-hunger-strike-new-outdoor-occupation/

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 4 December 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

that wells fargo mic check is so good. so stirring. when the applause comes in though, is that people applauding the sentiment of the mic check or the fact that they're being thrown out?

judith, Sunday, 4 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link


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