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L-R: Arsh, Theo
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Both of you outed, now
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
I was never in!
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
is theo that much taller than arshavin?
― ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
they're the same size more or less except for the crazy legs
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
ken c turning up as 'ken c' has blown all my theories
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
nah i'm still lost, tho i reckon nb&s and maybe.... rtc?
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
lovely legs, they are
xpost i was in new zealand for a few months now back
― ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure. Not sure NV is around at all.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
You will follow L. Jagger anyway, won't you? (xp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
'anywhere' that should be. anyway still works tho
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― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Theo is better as a winger than he is at any other position even if you want to specify that he's a crazy crane or whatever. He can't be a speed demon forever so he'd better figure out a more or less natural position or develop an optimum one and I'm pretty sure that isn't going to be as a striker
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
maybe he shd learn to cross a ball then
don't see nv around tbh, tho if we start a 'blue saturday' thread with obscure youtubes and nonsense cocktail ideas he'll be drawn out i reckon
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Not that many footballers can cross a ball well, tbf 2 Theo
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
i don't consider it an essential skill but wd argue it is a necessary constituent of wingerdom
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Who's the best crosser in the league then?
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Sure I've seen plenty in my time who couldn't manage it (xp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
Frankly, every footballer should know how to cross and yes, Theo needs to work on that but I had despaired of him ever really amounting to anything but a one-time WC tourist until I saw him play the wing against Udinese and (admittedly not cross) make that run into the box to score. It was unWalcottesque to me or at least a novelty.
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
xxp
god knows, hardly anybody plays wingers any more. Baines is a better crosser of the ball than Theo but it ain't him
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I know you've always rated him Darragh. Just sayin' - last few weeks in particular he's been so so good. God I love him. (xposts)
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
being a winger who can't cross is like being a striker who can't shoot straight oh wait gervinho i see a pattern
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
tbf half the wingers in the league are of the cutting inside variety these days. You don't see many getting to the byline
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i know, i just think that if you mainly do that, especially if you're playing on yr weaker side and consequently are more or less unable to cross, u shd be called something other than a winger. not that Theo plays on his weaker side. but it's like the difference between being a "centre forward" and a "striker"
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
K. Doyle for example is a centre forward but i don't think he's a striker
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Heaven knows why, as the latter is about a million times more effective... provided you can cross the ball, oh, that's where it falls down
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
also unless you have a 30 million pound totem pole in the middle to head the crosses in this tactic mayn't be effective
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It can't be Jermaine Pennant
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
Valencia used to do it but he seems to be completely frightened of taking on a defender since he came back from injury, and since he still plays on the right and doesn't even have the semblance of a left foot cutting inside is completely pointless
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
charlie adam's corners are worth 10 million quid don't ya know.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Corners are another kettle of fish entirely. Nani is an excellent crosser but his corners and set-pieces in general are awful
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
baines, bale, bellamy, gerrard, young, valencia all p good from top of my head, i'm sure there's loads more.
Cleverley landed a few beauties against us too, nani prob worth mention. Downing always used to be, but these days i dunno.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
i've seen some rotten corners this season too, guys who regularly can't beat the first defender, several of them wearing Old Gold
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
rory delap, in a way.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Was going to mention C. Adam, but bombing down the wing and pinging over crosses seems beyond his physical capabilities (xxxxp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Argh! Lucas! Six months! Now what? Henderson has got to step up big time.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Convinced that moaning about footballers being unable to cross the ball is a sign of getting older
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
don't mind footballers being unable to cross, think wingers shd be able to. obviously i'm getting old and senile but that's beside the point
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure if guys like Jimmy Johnstone, or whoever, were particularly great crossers either
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure
aye, just temporarily going back in time
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Best crossers currently = Nani, Bale, Baines, Young. I'd probably rate Nani the best of those.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Assou-Ekotto is pretty sweet when it comes to putting in crosses as well.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
corluka's a good crosser
Footballers being one-footed, not being able to cross, set pieces being poor- pet peeves
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Trevor Francis is the earliest "dude who can run really fast down a wing and has no end product when he gets to the byline" player i can remember but he perhaps didn't invent it
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
bae- yep
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Remembers Trevor Francis = noodle vague, no?
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was obvious ages ago tbh
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
toyed with claiming to be pinefox for a moment
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
garrincha!
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link