xxp. Impossible to exaggerate how good Lucas has been these last 3 games - he's been fucking immense.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
i'd say it's possible, chris, but come now i've always rated the lad.
Julie lagger otm but who is julie lagger?
Walcott and lennon are wingers neither, it's true. Lennon inside left, walcott- striker? track?
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
i used to post to I Love Football as "darraghmac"
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
that dick
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Jol out
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
Julie out
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/803/608/17806308:jpeg_preview_large.jpg?20110708082454
L-R: Arsh, Theo
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Both of you outed, now
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
I was never in!
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
is theo that much taller than arshavin?
― ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
they're the same size more or less except for the crazy legs
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
ken c turning up as 'ken c' has blown all my theories
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
nah i'm still lost, tho i reckon nb&s and maybe.... rtc?
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
lovely legs, they are
xpost i was in new zealand for a few months now back
― ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure. Not sure NV is around at all.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
You will follow L. Jagger anyway, won't you? (xp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
'anywhere' that should be. anyway still works tho
http://www.itisamystery.com/itisamystery.gif
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Theo is better as a winger than he is at any other position even if you want to specify that he's a crazy crane or whatever. He can't be a speed demon forever so he'd better figure out a more or less natural position or develop an optimum one and I'm pretty sure that isn't going to be as a striker
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
maybe he shd learn to cross a ball then
don't see nv around tbh, tho if we start a 'blue saturday' thread with obscure youtubes and nonsense cocktail ideas he'll be drawn out i reckon
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Not that many footballers can cross a ball well, tbf 2 Theo
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
i don't consider it an essential skill but wd argue it is a necessary constituent of wingerdom
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Who's the best crosser in the league then?
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Sure I've seen plenty in my time who couldn't manage it (xp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
Frankly, every footballer should know how to cross and yes, Theo needs to work on that but I had despaired of him ever really amounting to anything but a one-time WC tourist until I saw him play the wing against Udinese and (admittedly not cross) make that run into the box to score. It was unWalcottesque to me or at least a novelty.
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
xxp
god knows, hardly anybody plays wingers any more. Baines is a better crosser of the ball than Theo but it ain't him
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I know you've always rated him Darragh. Just sayin' - last few weeks in particular he's been so so good. God I love him. (xposts)
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
being a winger who can't cross is like being a striker who can't shoot straight oh wait gervinho i see a pattern
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
tbf half the wingers in the league are of the cutting inside variety these days. You don't see many getting to the byline
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i know, i just think that if you mainly do that, especially if you're playing on yr weaker side and consequently are more or less unable to cross, u shd be called something other than a winger. not that Theo plays on his weaker side. but it's like the difference between being a "centre forward" and a "striker"
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
K. Doyle for example is a centre forward but i don't think he's a striker
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Heaven knows why, as the latter is about a million times more effective... provided you can cross the ball, oh, that's where it falls down
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
also unless you have a 30 million pound totem pole in the middle to head the crosses in this tactic mayn't be effective
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It can't be Jermaine Pennant
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
Valencia used to do it but he seems to be completely frightened of taking on a defender since he came back from injury, and since he still plays on the right and doesn't even have the semblance of a left foot cutting inside is completely pointless
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
charlie adam's corners are worth 10 million quid don't ya know.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Corners are another kettle of fish entirely. Nani is an excellent crosser but his corners and set-pieces in general are awful
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
baines, bale, bellamy, gerrard, young, valencia all p good from top of my head, i'm sure there's loads more.
Cleverley landed a few beauties against us too, nani prob worth mention. Downing always used to be, but these days i dunno.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
i've seen some rotten corners this season too, guys who regularly can't beat the first defender, several of them wearing Old Gold
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
rory delap, in a way.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Was going to mention C. Adam, but bombing down the wing and pinging over crosses seems beyond his physical capabilities (xxxxp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Argh! Lucas! Six months! Now what? Henderson has got to step up big time.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Convinced that moaning about footballers being unable to cross the ball is a sign of getting older
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
don't mind footballers being unable to cross, think wingers shd be able to. obviously i'm getting old and senile but that's beside the point
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure if guys like Jimmy Johnstone, or whoever, were particularly great crossers either
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure
aye, just temporarily going back in time
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Best crossers currently = Nani, Bale, Baines, Young. I'd probably rate Nani the best of those.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Assou-Ekotto is pretty sweet when it comes to putting in crosses as well.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
corluka's a good crosser
Footballers being one-footed, not being able to cross, set pieces being poor- pet peeves
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link