2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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WHY IT'S STRONGER THAN EVER

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

more than ever, we need Herman Cain

I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

if cain could only make a voting block out of the women he's allegedly harassed or with whom he's allegedly had affairs, he might have enough support to win the GOP nomination.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

Sizable voting blocks:

Newt -- ex-wives.
Huntsman -- people who thought, "Kurt Cobain?"

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Obama-Gingrich debates would be fascinating

this is a new level of derangement

if Newt is nominated I will kiss all of yr asses is Macys window

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

If Gingrich is leading NH polls ten days before the primary, look for amazingly timely, scandalous "revelations."

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, come on--Obama and Gingrich would be amazing. Gingrich could say anything at any time, and Obama would be walking a tightrope--how much to hang back and let Gingrich destroy himself, but at the same time running the risk that Gingrich pounces (obviously Obama is vulnerable all over the place). Or if Obama debated aggressively, that would just increase the chance that Gingrich goes off.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think I'm w/ you morbs but otoh the fact that romney still hasn't sealed this up might suggest that this might be an unusual primary

iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

dr. m is probably right, and that just tells you how little people are paying attention (because none of those possible "revelations" are actually new).

the thing is that the extent to which they'd damage gingrich at that point is largely dependent on the mood of the anyone-but-romney voting bloc at the time. if there's no alternative to gingrich (or at least none that could be settled upon in time), the "revelations" may not matter.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

intrade has romney at 53.8%, newt at 30%

that's absurd I should go make some money off this

iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

THAT'S CRAZY THERE IS NO MONEY TO BE MADE FROM POLITICS.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

everyone knows this.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

willing to suggest that there's *some* chance of this going all weird and romney not getting it, but 50%?

iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

btw, rick perry is now a populist

CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- "You don't have to sit back & take it any more," "reach beyond the confines of the Beltway." Big push against "insiders" (read: Mitt/Newt)
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CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- More Perry: "Americans were snookered" by "Wall Street highrollers" who were "betting against America." Harsher than usual.

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CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- Populist Perry this AM in Nashua: "What's wrong with America can be diagrammed on a napkin... Straight line between DC and Wall St"

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- Populist Perry this AM in Nashua: "What's wrong with America can be diagrammed on a napkin... OOH I DREW A DOGGIE!"

OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

LOL

Nicole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

If Gingrich is leading NH polls ten days before the primary, look for amazingly timely, scandalous "revelations."

I sorta doubt Newt will pull ahead in NH but if so, yeah this is going to happen. Newt will never get the nomination, will probably limp through Iowa and NH and bank all his hopes on South Carolina.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

btw, rick perry is now a populist

If someone doesn't kick him in the nuts for this, we should just give ourselves back to Britain. His corporate whoredom is blatantly obvious.

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

<i>Newt will never get the nomination, will probably limp through Iowa</i>

He may well get crushed in NH, but, barring sudden developments, it doesn't look like he'll be limping through Iowa. "Never"'s a strong word; the older I get, the less and less I'm inclined to speak in absolutes.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Square brackets--okay, now I get it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Newt will never get the (GOP) nomination

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"Never"'s a strong word; the older I get, the less and less I'm inclined to speak in absolutes.

i will go out on a limb and say the following people will never get the GOP nomination.

  • hillary clinton
  • abe vigoda
  • bradford cox, from deerhunter
  • prof. griff, from public-enemy
  • prof. newt gingrich, from the planet look-at-me

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Never say never, but even among Republicans Newt's negative numbers are probably insuperable and even if they want to nominate someone who Obama is likely to beat, they'll want someone they actually like.

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like newt will fuck this up and flame out at some point because he's newt gingrich and that's what he does.

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Chamblis/Duffy '12

OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like newt cain perry will fuck this up and flame out at some point because he's newt cain perry and that's what he does.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

naw, newt's actually got a chance here, especially if other non-romneys drop out of the race. he'll do pretty well in iowa and NH, and might do very well in south-carolina, where the south begins to roll.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

NEWTNEWTNEWTNEWT

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't discount Abe Vigoda--Tessio was always smarter, and believe me, I know.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Tiffany's of NY is definitely in Newt's corner on this nomination thing.

Aimless, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

I hope he uses "Breakfast at Tiffany's" as his campaign song.

Nicole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

The Freddie Mac thing has got to be thrown in his face. Perry is a ham-fisted hypocrite about the 'napkin diagram' but Newt is the ultimate Beltway insider and the Teabaggers and the Base have to decide whether even a shred of coherence is important to them. Personally, I'd like to see all their heads explode Scanners-style at the multitude of contradictions they presently contain.

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Frum's head has already exploded, evidently (that was a great piece btw, thx for the link upthread)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

The Freddie Mac thing has got to be thrown in his face

don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes (i.e., general election v. newt gingrich).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Bobby Moynihan is probably out distributing Newt fliers as we speak

OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

How can you not love him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU72izvZVRA

"I can't tell you what Speaker Gingrich is saying." I can only tell you what Speaker Gingrich is saying.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

I love how the de facto GOP position is "round em up and deport em" as if that is a) moral, b) simple, c) inexpensive and d) a net benefit for the economy

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

their old position was "let them fry on an electrified fence with an alligator-infested moat dug around it," so this is an improvement.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

in that it's only slightly less feasible eh I guess so

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

Josh Marshall thinks Newt-mentum may have legs:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/11/mitts_darkening_horizon.php

o. nate, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes (i.e., general election v. newt gingrich).

I said this not as a partisan but as general advice. S/he who is (relatively, to him) w/o sin cast some mf'ing stones ppl!

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

lol how badly did romney screw-up that FOX News interview?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Bring in the clowns...

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

the clip above seems like yr standard Romney performance to me, but maybe I'm missing something.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

Bring in the clowns...

they're ... all... rea...dy... heeeeeere

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

lol romney's answer on immigration question:

talk talk talk talk talk talk talk maybe he'll move on to something else talk talk talk talk talk talk talk

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

talk talk uh . . . you know . . . (nervous laughter) . . . uh talk talk

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

the lolsome part is that uh, aren't people who are here illegally already at the "back of the line" re: becoming legal

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, gingrich has a chance, because (a) he's an angry white guy who knows how to dog-whistle to his reactionary constituency (i.e., the GOP base) and (b) romney's No. 1 asset was the total, utter inability of his opponents to speak in coherent sentences and discuss even rudimentary policy, and -- as wrong as gingrich is on most issues -- he can speak full sentences and discuss policy.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

basically, i'm willing to give amnesty to any undocumented person who can speak english better than rick perry.

which means amnesty for almost all of america's 11M undocumented persons.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, gingrich has a chance, because (a) he's an angry white guy who knows how to dog-whistle to his reactionary constituency (i.e., the GOP base)

which means he has no chance of gaining independents, therefore he's lost the primaries.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link


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