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Gervinho has his uses, i mean tbf he'd be a hell of a beater on a pheasant hunt.

Walcott's improved, but he's still just a quick bad footballer

Arshavin hasn't played a decent 90 mins since his first tax bill came in.

Must have missed Ramsey rattling them in throughout his career.

Chamakh doesn't figure in Wenger's plans, tho that's hardly his fault. Guy is shit but reasonably effective.

Claiming you're not a one-man team when one guy scores half of your goals is nonsense. It just....is.

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

and it's not as if it's a mcleish tactic of 'we'll keep it tight and rely on bent' type of 'one guy scores all your goals'. You're an attack minded team that has conceded 23 vs 26 scored.

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

I've kind of gotten the impression that Arhsavin's Arsenal career is over anyway

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

he scored 4 goals once in one game though

ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

so did Baptista

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

Arsenal should buy him back actually

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

that only works against one team unfortunately
xp baptista and arshavin

pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

two of my fav players

ilx bandsox (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

so we play aoc on the wing when the most in-form winger in the league goes into the centre

Is he talking about Theo?!!??

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

i

I think so

Lil dude's crackin up

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Happens to the best of us, look at M. Wenger

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Theo's become good in fairness, I'd say now good enough to be an automatic choice for Arsenal and a justified England regular. And he's got scope to keep improving too, though this talk about moving to CF is a bit much.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

Lucas out for 6 months? Please no. Fucking hell.

Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

villified players that are overly-championed by partisans, lucas vs walcott

Walcott vs Lennon atm? For right wing I choose Lennon, tho he's prob better on the left. Is Walcott playing striker at all?

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

uncomfortable using the word "winger" for dudes who can't cross a ball, wd prefer "inside forward" or "crazylegs crane" or something

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Unfair. Theo did a good cross on Saturday.

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

xxp. Impossible to exaggerate how good Lucas has been these last 3 games - he's been fucking immense.

Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

i'd say it's possible, chris, but come now i've always rated the lad.

Julie lagger otm but who is julie lagger?

Walcott and lennon are wingers neither, it's true. Lennon inside left, walcott- striker? track?

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

i used to post to I Love Football as "darraghmac"

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

that dick

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Jol out

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

Julie out

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/803/608/17806308:jpeg_preview_large.jpg?20110708082454

L-R: Arsh, Theo

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Both of you outed, now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

I was never in!

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

is theo that much taller than arshavin?

ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

they're the same size more or less except for the crazy legs

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

ken c turning up as 'ken c' has blown all my theories

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

nah i'm still lost, tho i reckon nb&s and maybe.... rtc?

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

lovely legs, they are

xpost i was in new zealand for a few months now back

ken c, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure. Not sure NV is around at all.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

You will follow L. Jagger anyway, won't you? (xp)

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

'anywhere' that should be. anyway still works tho

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.itisamystery.com/itisamystery.gif

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Theo is better as a winger than he is at any other position even if you want to specify that he's a crazy crane or whatever. He can't be a speed demon forever so he'd better figure out a more or less natural position or develop an optimum one and I'm pretty sure that isn't going to be as a striker

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

maybe he shd learn to cross a ball then

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

don't see nv around tbh, tho if we start a 'blue saturday' thread with obscure youtubes and nonsense cocktail ideas he'll be drawn out i reckon

daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Not that many footballers can cross a ball well, tbf 2 Theo

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

i don't consider it an essential skill but wd argue it is a necessary constituent of wingerdom

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Who's the best crosser in the league then?

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Sure I've seen plenty in my time who couldn't manage it (xp)

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

maybe he shd learn to cross a ball then

Frankly, every footballer should know how to cross and yes, Theo needs to work on that but I had despaired of him ever really amounting to anything but a one-time WC tourist until I saw him play the wing against Udinese and (admittedly not cross) make that run into the box to score. It was unWalcottesque to me or at least a novelty.

M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

xxp

god knows, hardly anybody plays wingers any more. Baines is a better crosser of the ball than Theo but it ain't him

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh I know you've always rated him Darragh. Just sayin' - last few weeks in particular he's been so so good. God I love him. (xposts)

Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

being a winger who can't cross is like being a striker who can't shoot straight oh wait gervinho i see a pattern

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

tbf half the wingers in the league are of the cutting inside variety these days. You don't see many getting to the byline

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

i know, i just think that if you mainly do that, especially if you're playing on yr weaker side and consequently are more or less unable to cross, u shd be called something other than a winger. not that Theo plays on his weaker side. but it's like the difference between being a "centre forward" and a "striker"

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

K. Doyle for example is a centre forward but i don't think he's a striker

Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

tbf half the wingers in the league are of the cutting inside variety these days. You don't see many getting to the byline

Heaven knows why, as the latter is about a million times more effective... provided you can cross the ball, oh, that's where it falls down

Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link


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