fuck a creationist

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(joke brought to you courtesy of 9 YEARS TOO LATE)

latebloomer! (clonefeed), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the whywontgodhealamputees guy (for some reason i'm positive it's a guy) is trying to beat the literal-minded xtians at their own game by being even more brain-dead literal than they are which is pretty hilarious in spots but i don't think he realizes that's what he's doing; he seems equally as clueless and fundies that the distinction "is real"/"is not real" is just irrelevant when it comes to god, as irrelevant as it is to, say, professional wrestling, which by this guy's logic he should eliminate from the planet

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

the idea that every dog breed came from two mutts who fucked 3000 years ago is medication-level crazy

And yet it's still the most accurate thing they've said! Every modern dog breed is descended from the wolf, most of them have only come into existence very recently - on a visual level it's about the only possible example of ultra-fast "evolution" the Christians can use/abuse as they choose.

Maaarghk C (Maaarghk C), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(Not just wolves, I don't think -- there are other sources going on some places, like African Wild Dogs and stuff.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

obviously:

http://www.petzone.ro/caini/articole/rase/basset-hound/basset.jpg

would stalk the Forests of the North for prey, or the Wild Serengeti, or the colonized parts of the Outback for babies to steal.

Roving packs would terrorize the countryside.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Chief among the list of things dog breeders should be doing if they weren't being total superficial dog-Nazis and preserving weird stupid structural things like ear angles: adorable hounds like those who aren't genetically inclined to bay/bark all the time!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Best sandbox thread ever.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), December 5th, 2006.

otm

?steen and the Hoosteenians (hoosteen), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

That sexinchrist.com shit is fuckin bonkers.

hoo got it for steen (hoosteen), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

...adorable hounds like those who aren't genetically inclined to bay/bark all the time!

Not hounds, but...HUSKIES AND MALAMUTES!

http://www.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/alaskan-malamute-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/alaskan-malamute-0034.jpg http://www.mikaylakennels.com/images/blkmalemain.jpg

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.drtv-online.com/images/510319dw.jpg

jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

itsa dug first, den breed, den jimy - geet it?

jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Siberian huskies, not Alaskan ones. Apparently Alaskans will vocalize LOTS if they're in proximity to other dogs. Siberians apparently yowl and "talk", but that doesn't carry as far as the kind of barking that makes the neighbors want to slip a little strychnine treat under the door while you're at work.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, Laurel, but I guess I prefer "feeling like a fat medieval duke gorging on mutton while sloppy hounds drool next to the fireplace" to "feeling like a character in a Jack London book."

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I like having a wolf or two around the house. Just for kicks.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, drooling? Never a compelling argument for anything. Well, anything good.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway back to creation

http://myspace-914.vo.llnwd.net/01423/41/97/1423907914_m.jpg

jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

don't forget shiba inus, the smiley japanese wolf hound doggo:

http://www.puppyfind.com/breed/shiba_inu/m_659098.jpg


(there's a disturbing amount of cosplay results when you do a GIS for 'em)

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

shiba is hugely cute

jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

omg @ shiba inu furries on GIS

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

WOULD SMASH ALL THESE CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS

so glad i clicked on this thread

omg xpost SHIBA INUS OMGDSLKHDSG

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.modernpooch.com/archives/ShibaElkhoundShibaShiba1.jpg

the two on the ends have hitler 'staches lol

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

want

grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

WGFAM*

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/datomana_1926_11615571.jpg

*would give frankincense and myrrh

aidsy (aidsy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"Now, what I mean by 'sex with the lord...'"
*PUNCH*

Geza T (The GZeus), Thursday, 7 December 2006 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

up in the twin cities, there's a new group who've been putting up a series of billboards.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Brilliant. Everyone has an opinion. Every tenant of modern biology is just your opinion.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

tenet

/pedant

Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

pedet

/tenant

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

tynan

/delong

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

What I meant was, those who live in and pay rent to modern biology.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, it IS just a "theory," after all. Ain't no theory controllin' my life, i tell ya

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

bbbut it DOES! it controls their argument! look at the site, the "this is the word of god" argument is totally occluded behind "oh looky scientists disagree." which is what scientists do, and how science works. they've given up the game, and they have to.

i'm actually pretty optimistic on the darwin vs jesus fite. all the history of science suggests that theologians and religious authorities spend whole lifetimes on arguments about the nature of thought, matter, time, etc, only to have empiricism slash whole realms of their debate away from them, leaving the next generation to reframe their debates in the smaller space left.

urghonomic (gcannon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

of course at the popular level, the I AM NOT A MONKEY meme won't be going away quietly (cf women calling up theaters asking if the dinosaur puppets are darwin or jesus-friendly), but no religious outfit asking for your ear can credibly claim that science doesn't know what its talking about re genetics, cell biology, etc (in short - LIFE), just that "they don't know everything." yeah, not yet!

urghonomic (gcannon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

update

today i was discussing with my co-worker what to do when kids start crying at the end of velveteen rabbit ('but he loves that lil bunny...' 'no. it will only make him sick again. burn it with the rest') a early 30something mom sidled up & said

'you know that movie HAPPY FEET? from the commercials you think its just about penguins dancing and having fun but i heard from a lot of people that its really making kids cry because its scary and all full of adult and GAY THEMES and stuff like global warming'

i asked her who she heard all this from & she admitted it was her husband and the tv show 'fox & friends'

and what (ooo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, see if you can get the next one to enumerate the oppressive gay themes in the movie, and if it's more gay or less gay than Spongebob.

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard that Happy Feet was just plain WEIRD.
Like, environmentalism blahblahblah and VEEERY little to do with the original marketing(or the kids book that a 7 year old student of mine read to me before the movie's release...).
We need truth in advertising.
"Take your kids to this movie. Because it's never too early to start indoctrinating hippies."

In any case, "Who do you think you are?"
Um...extremely genetically similar to that monkey right there?

I wasn't born in Ireland, but that doesn't mean a few Irish people aren't related to me on some level.
Note: I'm only part Irish. Small relationship on a genetic level relative to the rest of my heritage.

Geza T (The GZeus), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

KIDS MOVIE IN PRO-ENVIRONMENT PRO-"ITS OK TO BE DIFFERENT" SENTIMENT SHOCKAH

max (maxreax), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The Onion liked it, and the RT/MC scores both have it at 75%+

Feel free to peruse the user comments, tho, including the following:

JC L gave it a2:

The movie's agenda squashes the fun out of this film- Message: Anglo, religious, Southern, father authority=BAD. Latin, ethnic, U.N., rebellious children= GOOD. Scottish (Anglo) and Southern accents were given to the villains and failed father. Latin and ethnic accents given to the enlightened and fun characters. Unfortunately, I was in a theater full of kids and none of them were having fun or laughing. Graphics were great and kept this from being a total loss.

bran h. gave it a3:

I'd give this movie an 8 for ambition, but a 3 for execution. The film has 2 agendas, one of which reviewers and audience members alike seem to have totally missed. The first is the well-recognized eco-agenda that shows up in the last 30 minutes of the movie (practically out of the blue) and which, though creatively and compellingly handled initially, is ridiculously resolved in the closure of the film. The second, which is both the one that is missed and the one that drives the film's plot, is Mumble's personal storyline - which is a very thinly veiled metaphor about the experience of coming out and seeking community acceptance as a gay man. Mumble is "different" from birth, he's inherently happy (read: gay) about who he is and doesn't mind his difference at all, he is rejected by his community and his father particularly, and finds a new community with sassy, brassy, carefree, dancing, party animals who appear to lack serious convictions about major life issues (a metaphor for the gay bar scene). I like that the gay agenda is presented in such honest and matter-of-fact terms and think that the movie could've been a wonderful one had the filmmakers simplified their presentation around that, but the rest of the movie is just so confused and sloppy - once the eco-agenda is added in to the picture, and issues of madness and depression are thrown in, as well as various religious/metaphystical issues... Well, the movie just gets totally confused, loses its momentum, and, as a result, can't support it's story nor it's twin agendas very effectively.

Ray H. gave it a2:

I saw this with all of my cousins. The youngest is four and the oldest was thirteen. The other adults in my family also came with. We saw this movie thinking it would be at least somewhat funny. My four year old cousin and my six year old cousin, the audience the film was aimed at, FELL ASLEEP!!! The script was awful, the plot was pointless, and came from a definite tree- hugger. The only somewhat funny parts in the movie were Robbin williams' character and his friends. Overall I thought this movie was terrible and a waste of five bucks!!!

M D gave it a2:

Well, I thought it was going to be a cute happy little kids' flick, but little did I know that I was going to have preachy political messages crammed down my throat. It isn't that I necessarily disagree with all of the messages that the movie is trying to preach to us, in fact, I agree with the majority of them. The problem is HOW they did it. How they did it was actually rather offensive and heavy-handed. I felt like they were forcing ideas on me and overtly trying to manipulate me into thinking a certain way. As well, they used strange stereotyping that seemed unnecessary and just wrong somehow. Like, why were some of the penguins Mexican? Weird. And how come the leader of the penguins had a strong Irish brogue and all of the rigid penguin leaders seemed kind of like they were penguin Catholic priests? What point were they trying to make by using stereotypes in this way? That religion is bad? That people who are accepting are latino? Strange. And did you need to use these specific stereotypes to make the point you were trying to make? I felt like I was watching one of the newer Star Wars movies, and expected Jar Jar Binks to show up in one of the scenes... And, frankly, all of these stereotypes and political messages changed the movie from being a movie into being a diatribe. The movie stopped being a cute kids movie about a penguin with special tap-dancing skills who wants to be accepted, and started being a vehicle for the movie-maker's political propaganda. Tell a story OR share your opinion--when you try to pretend like you are telling a story when really you are shoving your views on others, it is dishonest and irritating. And, for a children's movie, it was awfully sexual. Yes, I know, much of the movie revolves around mating, but really, some of this stuff was just too adult for children. And just for the record, I am politically pretty liberal, but when watching this movie, I felt like I was being bashed with a liberal propaganda stick so hard that it almost made me want to say, fish all you want, you eco-destroying trawlers! When you push your views so hard that people already on your side want to get away from you, I don't think you have relayed your messages in the best way possible, eh?


"ethnic"

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

that last one seems pretty right on. fuck robin williams.

urghonomic (gcannon), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

that movie sounds pretty awesome

jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

this new generation of "relentlessly repeat the message from base camp with few or no variations" internet jockeys is one of the more bizarre phenomena of the age

Jaufre Rudel (Jaufre Rudel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

works so well on tv, so why not do it online

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

[17:42] HELLA LIKE DYING: guh it makes me want to german suplex the world
[17:43] Harry Lime ARL: just look at this dog and u will be free of suplex-related urges http://www.puppyfind.com/breed/shiba_inu/m_659098.jpg
[17:43] HELLA LIKE DYING: omg i love those little chink dogs

aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Meanwhile, on the other side of the pond, here's hhow the Ministry of Education is handling it

kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Actual conversation I had at work today:

ME: So, I was at this crazy website last night, this creationist guy who thinks humans existed at the same time as dinosaurs, and tries to prove it...it's bizarre, you have to see it.

HER: ...Yeah, but what about Africa?

ME: ..What ABOUT Africa?

HER: Well, you know, what's it called, pangaea? You know, so the dinosaurs were actually in Africa at the same time that humans were.

ME: Um, no, dinosaurs went extinct a really really long time before we evolved into humans.

HER: *rolls her eyes and gives coworkers the "Zach is dumb" look*


THE US PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM HAS FAILED US ALL

Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

pangaea? 300 million years ago? I thought the earth was only... oh, forget it.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

HER: Well, you know, what's it called, pangaea? You know, so the dinosaurs were actually in Africa at the same time that humans were.

wtf?

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Either creationists are teaching people that the continents were once stuck together and drifted apart VERY quickly in the last 6000 years, or she's misunderstanding what the word means, or both, or, or, or.

I think Curtis summed it up, actually. wtf.

whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link


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