POLL: The Clean vs. The Chills

pink frost is the only song spotify will let me listen to
:) because i know now that it is a good song, but ultimately :(

:(

The Clean, but both are awesome.
Can I use this opportunity to say that David Kilgour's new one from this year is really really great?

FWIW no other Chills song resonates with me like "Pink Frost."
I'd never seen that video before posting it, it is gorgeous.

the clean are impressive for their longevity. haven't heard the new kilgour, but the last two clean albums were good fun.

yeah the David Kilgour album, Left by Soft, is great

oops xp henrietta made me listen to the new david kilgour album and i agree - it is good. i listened to some of the older ones after that, but they weren't quite as pretty.

dr advance johnson needs to weigh in on this.

Kilgour's Here Come the Cars is a treat, too. Lots of jangly, strummy pop bits.

Definitely the Chills, as stated upthread. But I do like the Clean! And the Bats. In fact I did a mini NZ/Aus section last time I DJed where all three of them were played.

I always used to put 'Doledrums' on before I had to go sign on. Ahh, those were the days.

The Chills have meant more to me, at various times, then the Clean ever did, but right now I definitely listen to the latter a lot more.

I think The Chills were perfect late adolescent music for me.

a video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsyytZ1nQkc

saw the Chills play 3x or so ('86-93?) in NYC, that "Pink Frost" video got quite a few alt plays on MTV.

was always trying to get my old band to cover this, but we could never get it together :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBuT8rKXol8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvYihKlgzOg&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUmONrZbOnw

Eurgh, the vids people keep posting as arguments for both bands having the opp effect on me.

looooove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_niUYYTW_A

what about this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Q6lFP47FE

whats wrong with At the Bottom?!

Driving me into the arms of the Verlaines tbh.

xp Except for "Anything Could Happen", obv!!

whats wrong with At the Bottom?!
seriously

i guess since we're going full flying nun
this song is super good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6jtLiSmNGk

Oh it's just too aimless for me, that's all.

also this song has the same things i generally like about the best clean songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qemll9u7oxg

o yeah that Weeds song is killer

I like the Clean but "Part Past Part Fiction" jumps into my head at least once a week.

tbh I think the Verlaines in their prime were way better than either

also this youtube channel has too much awesome kiwipop stuffhttp://www.youtube.com/user/chillblue:

http://www.youtube.com/user/chillblue07

Verlaines all day, every day.

during the first week I was at college I used to sit outside late at night near the closed law library and listen to this song over and over again on my walkman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR14a4ub9TI

I also listen to Verlaines the most. I am quite fond of Tall Dwarfs, as well.

ok well that gives me permission to post this then
check out the crowd when the drums (finally) kick in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_wNspWphMM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFPcoElI0M4

voted clean tho

Chills, but not by much.

chills! way ahead of the clean imo. brave words is a solid album.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

3ds tho

Oh, come on. Only FN band that the future will remember:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv-iM_1h5uA

<3 <3 <3 the Axemen

I love the 3Ds freakouts; their polite songs are ok but kinda forgettable.

once I made a tape of only David Mitchell 3Ds songs (or at least the ones he sang)(+ a couple of denise numbers)(+ some other David Mitchell stuff) and it confirmed my theory that he was the reason the 3Ds were good.

can't decide; see you in 19 hours

Clean

after listening to most of what i have by both, i've changed my mind and prefer the chills, but i think i already voted for the clean.

I don't think I can vote in this...they seem like such different bands, despite being associated with the same scene. They were both, in their primes, trying for such different things, and I think they both succeeded.

always the diplomat
now put your vote into the hat

This would be a much harder call for me if it was down to their early output, but Kaleidoscope World clinches it for The Chills.

if I had to vote I guess it'd be for the clean, because I can't see there being a point in my life when I'm going to be listening to the chills a lot again.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Do you really think the gun imagery is disproportionate, though?
I mean, have we considered the number of gun songs during roughly the same period elsewhere in the world?

Somebody should do some research and then write a book about it

i nominate nabisco

apparently copies of the soundtrack can be had for less than $10, or it could be assembled -- probably without too much trouble too.

I have that CD, is there a Sandbox Leonardo or such like?

goooood question -- why don't you make one

you guys i have to tell you something
i bought a copy of that book for $24 this morning and i have confirmation that it is on its way from dunedin
(willing to loan within the midwest, mrs advance and henriettalinita)

still would like to discuss the gun imagery
I mean, have we considered the number of gun songs during roughly the same period elsewhere in the world?
is there a way to search this? any librarians know the answer to this question?

I think that would be complicated. I mean, I do feel like in a period/scene where the archetypal band is the sex pistols, gun imagery might not be too rare?

I will definitely take you up on the offer to borrow that book at some point!

Only database I can think of with searchable song titles is Spotify. I don't know if you can combine with searching by year.
Ah ha http://www.spotify.com/us/blog/archives/2008/01/22/searching-spotify/

you can search by song title on allmusic, but I'm not sure how far that'd get you

i mean none of the songs i noticed containing gun imagery have titles that would suggest heavy artillery
except for one, and even that is debatable (point that thing)

Just off the top of my head: That's when I reach for my revolver, Machine gun (slowdive), uh...
well there's this
http://www.popculturemadness.com/Music/Shooting-Songs.html

copacabana
hahaha oh geez

maybe this is a red herring, who knows. i just heard like 3 in one day and it seemed unusual.

am I missing the gun reference in pink frost?

isn't there a gun? i'm not super familiar with that song! you would know better than i would.

I don't think so...she's dying but I always thought that song was about gaia and I don't think you can kill gaia with a gun

also i would not put "the man who shot liberty valance" and "copacabana" within the same musical framework, whereas these flying nun songs are at least somewhat related

like i said, there may be nothing there and i am letting my imagination go (too) nuts

it would not be the first time

anyway i am looking forward to reading this book

cough

i have that book, i like it.

there's a gun in this plus some other weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWGHvFHMiNk

fake eyeball, that's quite a rattle you've got. hope you feel better ;)

Book arrived from Dunedin today in the following wrapping: (from the outside in, all taped shut elaborately)

Brown mailing paper covered in stamps
Cardboard sleeve for book about stamps of indigenous people
plastic bag
brown paper

Lots of photos, not long, no idea how anyone would pay $384 for it but w/e. Looking forward to reading this evening!