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proud of a hoos

big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

whoa hoos! is it another interview?

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

hoy, latest St Pauls/Occupy LDN news story is this 'un:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/28/occupy-london-policy-vision-corporations

was down at bank of ideas yesterday, it seemed, you know, a nice space.

c sharp major, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Where was Hoos on the Newshour segment on ODC?

Bam needs to be mike-checked EVERYWHERE. Notes are a waste of time.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

xp to self

and of course there was the Observer's Occupy-themed gift guide: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/gallery/2011/nov/27/christmas-present-ideas-protests#/?picture=382326416&index=0

c sharp major, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://gothamist.com/2011/11/28/occupy_earplugs_miley_cyrus_pens_eu.php

iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

whoa hoos! is it another interview?

― iatee, Monday, November 28, 2011 6:36 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it's a panel, me and 3 or 4 of our people talking about what we're doing, plausible impact, and the influence of the arab spring. making sure to bring some of our free egypt connections.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

wow!!!

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Monday, 28 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

"The S.E.C., of all agencies, has a duty, inherent in its statutory mission, to see that the truth emerges; and if it fails to do so, this Court must not, in the name of deference or convenience, grant judicial enforcement to the agency's contrivances."

http://www.businessinsider.com/must-read-judge-rakoff-delivers-brutal-takedown-of-both-the-sec-and-citigroup-2011-11

srsly u guys i love this man

HOOS aka driver of steen, Monday, 28 November 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

wow that's great

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

i went to occupy LA last night for the first time in about a month. it was (we were told) the hugest turnout they'd had to date (over a thousand, easily) because mayor villaraigosa had announced his intentions to close down the plaza just after midnight. the GA sort of dissipated around 10:30pm and i went to the direct action group, where people were split off into those willing to be arrested and those who just wanted to lend support in case any shit went down. i tried carrying a sandbag from one part of the plaza to the other except it was super heavy and i'm a wimp. at about ten to midnight someone announced that the mayor released a statement saying he wasn't going to intervene until the crowd at the park thinned out a bit, but that only revved everyone up more.

i had work today so i tried leaving the plaza around 12:30am, only to find that cops were blocking off most of the intersections around the plaza and weren't letting anyone pass. sometime around 1am a police van came down 1st street to try to get to the plaza. protesters swarmed the van trying to block it and about ten minutes later i saw a stream of riot cops charge down 1st. there was some verbal confrontation but i didn't see any arrests or physical violence taking place. i managed to finally wend my way down around the south side of the park and made it to a friend's place nearby. didn't get home til 2:30am. the people i went with stayed until about 5:30am and apparently it was peaceful for the most part but i don't know what the plaza looks like at the moment. i did read about a few arrests that took place but it sounds like the cops refrained from using tear gas/bullets.

occupy LA: where even police bust-ups of protesters are super chill, brah

silvana mangano, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

A revelation to set one's teeth on edge.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 November 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

This is what the modern Greenspan-era Fed sees as its charter: making sure that banks are well-served and virtually guaranteed to make a profit, however sleazy their practises or reckless their actions become. The Fed has extensive regulatory powers, but the Fed board has precisely zero appetite for using them as evinced by the fact that it never does.

Aimless, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

give it up guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

hoos

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

hey hoos

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

river wolf you are back never leave and also please be doctor river wolf now

remy bean in exile, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

doctorate in applied sassiness

river wolf, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

omg river wolf how can i help u

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

occupy this knuck

~knucks~

river wolf, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

did u buck?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh knux were had

why

bcz bux

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

spirit flagging 2nite

found out mpd are now literally dropping just-released convicts at the square. when i heard nypd was doing this at z park i was able to stay sort of detached about it? like "ho ho, what an insidious and clever tactic, you rapscallions of the nypd!" but this really feels like the city i love just stabbed me in the stomach.

d-esc now instituting "three strikes" policy in hopes of curbing the rising instances of theft, medical tent was ransacked over the weekend (and two of our three main medics are ready to throw in the towel), the numbers of the mentally unstable have been increasing. some month and change ago i heard the other occupation was deliberately pushing out the homeless population that was encroaching on the camp because the homeless "didn't have the full understanding of (their) reasons for occupying" and i thought it was just a blinding display of said occ's short-sightedness & privileging of political expedience at the expense of a human ethic.

now, as their camp putters along quietly if staidly, i kind of wonder why that seemed like such a bad idea.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

http://nymag.com/print/?/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-2011-12/

iatee, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

where's the rest of that

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:27 (twelve years ago) link

"OWS is the “rotten fruit of Obamaism,” says a strategist."

both the ny mag and new yorker article are the work of ppl who were there for an extended length of time sorta refreshing after 100000 'journalist visits zuccotti for 30 minutes, explains it to the world's

iatee, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

oh hmm let me try another link

iatee, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this and the nyer piece seem much more embedded than everything else i've read

they 'get it'

harkinson almost feels like 'one of us' by now, too much to really give me any perspective

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

http://nymag.com/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-2011-12/

iatee, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

btw iatee apparently the failure of the supercommittee was your fault

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-supercommittees-13th-member-occupy-wall-street/2011/11/28/gIQAIC9C5N_story.html

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

^ seeing the occupy rhetoric in the comments section there is hope for me tbh

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

i wish i could shoot pepper spray out my dick

Foolio Iglesias, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

at copz

Foolio Iglesias, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

“It’s ironic. At first, people thought I was a Democratic Party mole. Now I’m like, ‘Fuck it, Let’s go after Obama!’ and they’re like, ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.’ ”

lol lol a friend of mine said these exact words the other night

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

could get you in trouble with the secret service if you phrase that poorly

silby, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

esp in DC I mean

silby, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

as the cops pour out of the ovens

Foolio Iglesias, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link

the fact that he was elected, that so many people came out in the streets for him, that people cried when he won, was an expression of the fact that they wanted what they thought he was, which is an alternative. He wasn’t it. He can’t deliver it. This political system can’t deliver it. This economy can’t deliver it. But there are millions of people who genuinely want it. That’s amazing and inspiring to people like us, who are just, like, ‘Okay. This is for real.’ ”

^

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

Stellar nonsense from that washington post column linked above:

...would have raised taxes by $250 billion over 10 years by dramatically reducing the deductions and credits wealthier taxpayers could claim to reduce their tax liability

I love how a freaking measly $25 billion a year in reduced tax credits and deductions becomes a revolutionary proposal that 'raises taxes dramatically'. He must think his readers cannot actually read.

Aimless, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link

a HOOS or a iatee is there anything a dude can do while not occupy-ing? London is a hassle to get to for us country folk.

In other news I am thinking of doing a politics-based masters, because ambition to become a lolw* level civil servant is how a brother brings about change.

unconsious typo/fruedian slip, leaving it in there. was just supposed to be low, now is lol-w.

big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

I was at "eviction night" at Occupy LA yesterday and took a bunch of photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/quartzcity/sets/72157628198758577/

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 07:51 (twelve years ago) link

Stand off...

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6117/6422165189_9fd564135d.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link

Meta-viewing

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6220/6422170183_50169796aa.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT IS NOT ???? ASSEMBLY

big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link

from that New York story, the arrival of Jesse Jackson:

But Jackson played humble, taking the seat next to Nurse, asking if he was welcome, waiting quietly for his turn to speak. Then, holding Nurse’s hand, he proceeded to unfurl a soliloquy in which he described the occupiers as inheritors of the mantle of the civil-rights movement. He talked about Martin Luther King’s Poor People’s Campaign, one of the last protests that MLK planned before his death. About Resurrection City, the shantytown on the National Mall that several thousand people populated in May and June of 1968. About how one advantage to having no identifiable leader is that “there’s nobody to assassinate.”

Jackson looked at Berger and asked, “What does Lyndon Johnson mean to you?” Berger shrugged. “The Vietnam War?”

Jackson folded his hands across his belly and declaimed, “Civil Rights Act of 1964—LBJ. The Voting Rights Act of 1965—LBJ. Medicare—LBJ. Medicaid—LBJ. Child Nutrition Act—LBJ. Jobs Corps—LBJ.”

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

Really, dude?

And if Obama thinks that they’re gonna be able to divert this energy by talking about doing something, he’s got another think coming.”

rusty flathead screwdriver, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but lol, british ppl

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile, in Portland, the World's Smallest Park has been occupied:

http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388420_2617863377236_1574679480_2383035_286234221_n.jpg

kingfish sandbox bonaparte, Saturday, 17 December 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

what they're calling "the portland snake"


The Portland Occupation stumbled upon a tactical innovation regarding occupying public spaces. This evolution in tactics was spontaneous, and went unreported in the media...

Now, to move on to the actual application of these tactical principles (that evolved by accident rather than conscious thought), we can take the example of Shemanski park on the 3rd. We occupied the park and set up a few tents and facilities to serve food and coffee. The police soon declared an emergency closure of the park and came out in force, with full riot gear and all the weaponry. The line of riot cops soon forced us out of the park, so someone decided that we ought to march to City Hall. It was about 9 pm on a Saturday night, so City Hall was closed, but we marched there anyway, 800 of us blocking traffic the whole way. Once there, the riot cops once again lined up to disperse the crowd. However, since City Hall was closed and there was no point in staying there anyway, someone had the idea to march down to the area of town where all the clubs were, so we took off marching again. The riot cops were trailing behind us...

After marching for 3-4 hours, we eventually found ourselves a block away from the park that we’d been forced out of, so we took it again. The riot police lined up and prepared to take the park again, but the attempt was called off and the police just left. They realized that they would have to go through the standard military procedure of clearing the park inch by inch, only to have us go back out into the streets and march again while they, one more time, trailed along helplessly- their entourage functioning as a part of the march, creating an even larger disruption to traffic (the marchers covered a city block, the trailing police took up another city block, effectively doubling the size of the obstruction to traffic)...

HOOS aka driver of steen, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

hey lookit i'm in greek

http://www.megatv.com/warzone/pages.asp?catid=24530&subid=2&pubid=28189187

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

this article about archiving OWS is great (and namechecks my MA program!):

http://www.theawl.com/2011/12/the-struggle-for-the-occupy-wall-street-archives

silvana mangano, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/21/tom-clancy-game-casts-99-percent-as-domestic-terrorists/

^^ new rainbow 6 game has villains that sound an awful lot like a weaponized ows

“This all started when you became bigger than the governments,” a narrator’s voice explains. “And governments became bigger than the people. That’s how the land of the free became the kingdom of the few — a few like you, Mr. Walsh. It’s time for a new balance of power. You may not answer to the government, but you will answer to us.”

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

xp hey thank you so much for that archive article link

sleeve sandbox, Thursday, 22 December 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i've been known to play some real dogshit in terms of FPSes from time to time, and even i have no clue who still plays rainbow six games

screwy lobsters and mice blights (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 22 December 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

lol

HOOS aka driver of steen, Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/re-progressive-taxation-the-people-get-it/

iatee, Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

can I get a book rec for anarchist thought inline with occupy and horizontal democracy? or just anarchism generally? thanks bunches.

shaane, Friday, 30 December 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

well kinda depends what direction you wanna come at it from--

mcglaughlin's "anarchism and authority" is a good one on broader principle stuff, david graeber's "direct action: an ethnography" is good on how those principles have been put into practice by the anti-globalization movement.

those are both great but a touch dry, though. the "spirit" of anarcho organizing & ows comes through really well in Crimethinc's book "Days of War, Nights of Love," i think. also their newest book "work" is actually a kinda sophisticated analysis of capitalism from a """"postmodern""" anarcho perspective, which i didn't really expect from them.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Proudhon?

tanuki, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

haha i was just about to type "property is theft"

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

i was just leaning towards more recent stuff--i read a lot of proudhon & kropotkin in college and as "timeless" as it was it was also frustrating that these were mostly dudes that had died a century ago. took crimethinc to made me realize people were still talking about this stuff.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Gotcha — I'm only now getting into Proudhon, Kropotkin, Bakunin et al so I'm no expert. All this is pretty much extra-curricular so I don't have as much time to spend on it as I would like.

tanuki, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

btw some friends of mine in a dc art group put up this lil "guerilla gallery" in the park today, all pieces about economic inequality

https://p.twimg.com/Ah7qcTaCMAAdz1W.jpg

park police said we can't have it there "because this is where you have GAs." not kidding.

they moved it to a diff lawn, all copasetic.

plan is for companion "galleries" to pop up throughout the city.

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

my homie drew is from iowa and he travelled back there for #occupycaucus, keep waiting to see a photo of him getting dragged off

HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 30 December 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

so

#J17 is a thing that is happening and i'm one of a few spearheads

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/12/occupy-dc-planning-major-january-demonstration/2039451

HOOS aka driver of steen, Saturday, 31 December 2011 08:36 (twelve years ago) link

ilx shld be more like facebook because i want to 'like' every hoos update on this thread.

big popppa hoy, Saturday, 31 December 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

xposts those seem like legit recommendations. thanks you. gonna get on that for the new year.

don't know if this is inline with occupy (and its the first time i've heard of it): lawrence lessig and mark meckler held a 'conference on the constitutional convention' back in sept. i'm convinced at this point that an article 5 convention might be the only viable avenue for occupy to get its needs met. otherwise it seems occupy will be relegated to local skirmishes with little effect at the federal level. not that local activism isn't equally noble.

the url is unfortunate: http://conconcon.org/

shaane, Saturday, 31 December 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

media team is at the bar for new years and my man says "dude, search twitter for zuccotti park right now"

"what am i looking for"

"just do it"

*thumbtyping*

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.999411.1325401567!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_485/image.jpg

"..................oh. fuck."

HOOS aka driver of steen, Sunday, 1 January 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

happy fucking new year

HOOS aka driver of steen, Sunday, 1 January 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link


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